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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMadHatter View Post
    We send entire boatloads back without knowing if they are genuine refugees or not.
    My comment was in response to this:

    I shudder to think about what the death rate would be among those sent back to the countries they were fleeing from.
    Yes, we send them back to Indonesia. Not to the countries that they were fleeing from.

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    Just want to add that many persecuted minorities are not even allowed passports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Perhaps they don't have passports? Isn't that what Ray Hadley and all those shock jocks love to tell us?

    Let's not forget that 90% of asylum seekers who arrive by boat are genuine compared to 40% of plane arrivals.
    You didn't answer my question. You said 20k was your number. Would you send the 5k back?

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    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMadHatter View Post
    Exactly. What if you are being persecuted by the government and they revoke your passport? It's all very wellto say 'get on a plane' but no airline will let you board without valid documents.
    Can you please tell me then, how did they get to Indonesia?

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    We are capable of taking more than 20k. These people are not uneducated after all. Aren't they rich according to you? They must have high flying jobs if that's the case!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Just want to add that many persecuted minorities are not even allowed passports.
    Can you please provide me with an example here? And how do these people get to Indonesia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    My comment was in response to this:



    Yes, we send them back to Indonesia. Not to the countries that they were fleeing from.
    Okay....please don't tell me you're naive enough to think Indonesia will look after them and will not send them back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    No.
    Then what would you do with them?
    If you would keep them, then 20k is not your number. What is your new number?

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