Believe me when I say if I could have chosen I wouldn't choose to be gay...
I love my partner with all my heart and I wouldn't change my life now. But if someone had said to me "you can have *your dp* and a house and a few kids" or "you can have *man* and a house and a few kids" 3 years ago I would have chosen the latter.
My life would be so different and so much easier if I was attracted to men.
But of course, there's no way I'd change anything now. I'm just grateful that I found love, and wasn't too scared to give it a go even though I didn't expect to fall in love with a woman.
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14-09-2013 18:39 #451
14-09-2013 18:42 #452
Natural = occurs in nature.
Take some time to look at nature, all the ways species live together and reproduce.
There is no "norm" across the board.
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14-09-2013 18:45 #453
14-09-2013 18:46 #454
Umm and yes I find 'unnatural' to be offensive. For many reasons.
1) my capacity to love is just as natural as someone who loves a man. I love my partner, I'm also capable of loving children, my family, her family, my rabbit...
2) if it's the sex that's unnatural then why aren't straight people who are into an@l unnatural too? Or women who enjoy oral?
3) homosexuality occurs in hundreds of species. It's a completely natural deviation. In fact, more giraffes are homosexual than straight.
4) the term unnatural implies abnormal. We don't use abnormal to describe people who vary from the norm (people with disabilities, or who are born with different coloured eyes etc) because it's offensive. And not true. Homosexuality occurs less than heterosexuality, yes. So does left handedness, and red hair. Does that make them unnatural?
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14-09-2013 18:50 #455
There are meant incidences of same sex couples in nature. Where I live a high percentage of swan pairs are actually two males who have taken over nests and driven the female out and raise the signets. I'm not sure it can be said its "unnatural".
14-09-2013 18:56 #456
How am I cherry picking, dont believe I am, I made allowance for someone elses point of view and said to the effect 'if that were the case then ....' How ever I do not believe that is the case, it was simply the recording of some history. Peter denied christ 3 times, did not have the approval of God or Christ but it did happen and was recorded.
very simply the bible does not support same sex marriage. But who cares other than those that believe the bible, the general consensus is bible and state are separate, I agree that should be the case - the church should not be involved in politics.
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14-09-2013 18:57 #457
She just happens to be Gay.
You are right C sections aren't natural but that doesn't compare to same sex couples because being Gay is not elective or a choice or a decision made to save a life. It just is, and thus it's natural.
I'd love it if a few of the people who are posting offensive things could come back later in life after having found out their child is Gay. Look into the eyes of their child that they love with all their hearts and tell them something as awful as " you are unnatural"
What's unnatural to me is prejudice.
Its mean and sad, and I'm so glad I get the privilege of parenting my daughter.
14-09-2013 19:02 #458
14-09-2013 19:05 #459
I find it completely and utterly offensive to be called unnatural :-(
And incredibly hurtful
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