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11-09-2013 22:53 #271-
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11-09-2013 23:01 #272
I haven't read through the whole thread either, but wanted to say thanks, Atropos, for your brilliant post. You have perfectly articulated all my frustrations about the current state of political discourse.
For the record, I am absolutely for same sex marriage, and, in reference to the PP who mentioned raising children with no expectation of heterosexuality, I will be doing that too (if I ever manage to conceive, but that is another story)!
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12-09-2013 07:06 #273
I just can't wrap my head around it. Who does it harm? No one.
I hate that in this thread people who are against have said "I don't want to elaborate here" in fear of having people attack them, I really want to understand the other view point, with some solid reasons. Not because it's "unnatural" not because "I don't like it".
I won't judge.
12-09-2013 07:41 #274
12-09-2013 07:49 #275
12-09-2013 08:26 #276
We aren't talking about holden vs ford here. Or buggaboo vs Valco. This isn't just about an opinion. Preferring a buggaboo doesn't hurt or remove rights from valco users. Wheras being against same sex marriage, you are actively wanting to infringe on people's rights based on *your* opinion of their lifestyle. That seems nuts to me.
12-09-2013 08:28 #277
12-09-2013 08:40 #278
*except with religious beliefs. If someone was to say it's their religious belief, it's not an opinion, it's not their idea, but they won't go against their church I could understand that. I don't have to agree but at least I can see how that could be someone's reason.
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12-09-2013 08:58 #279
Hard core religious types believe that homosexuality is unnatural & therefore feel that by legalising same sex marriage we risk the wrath of God & a fiery hell etc... They're entitled to their beliefs (i.e. we should be no more allowed to discriminate against people because of their religious beliefs than because they are gay), but I think religion has no place in politics & politicians should be more concerned about the planet being destroyed by climate change than by God.
When my nana (93) said she was against same sex marriage, I said "Why? Nobody is going to make you marry a woman." Silence.
And another thing - what is the economic rationale for being against same sex marriage? Where is the evidence based policy-making?
12-09-2013 10:28 #280Senior Member
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I think he, and you, would feel VERY different if somebody said that YOUR relationship was 'unnatural', 'not normal', 'something I don't encourage', 'animals are vicious too and this isn't normal', 'uncomfortable'. This is why people are upset because there are real people with real feelings on the other end of the screen reading this nonsense.
Anyway, this is where I disagree about 'each to their own' meaning ideas shouldn't be questioned because we may as well go back to the stone age if extreme opinions that discriminate and hurt are encouraged and left unchallenged.
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