What do people think of this?
While I am all for it in principle, I don't see how it can work if the Government has to foot the entire bill and not employers (its covered a bit by both in the UK so it is more than possible to do, although culturally would be hard to implement here I know).
I don't understand the stuff about it being unfair because all babies are worth the same. Its not about the babies. Its about the mothers! They have the same outgoing as they did before babies, in fact way more as we all know how expensive the little darlings are. Paying someone who has a large mortgage minimum wage for 18 weeks doesn't allow them to stay out of the workforce for more than a few weeks in reality (although its a great start of course).
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18-08-2013 12:17 #1
Abbot's PPL scheme to begin July 2015
18-08-2013 12:37 #2
He's going to to pay women up to 150k per rata? that's crazy. Women are just going to work the one shift a week like many do to qualify, get a massive payout, while SAHM's whose husbands pay way more in tax get nada. And he's quibbling over a measily couple of grand for SAHMs. What a joke
So much for pulling back the debt Nothing this idiot does surprises me anymore.
18-08-2013 12:44 #3
Spewing it starts in 2015.
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18-08-2013 12:45 #4
18-08-2013 12:50 #5
Won't change my vote!
18-08-2013 13:14 #6
Yeah you just get paid your normal wage, not $150kp/a if you normally make $30k p/a!
Just heard its being funded by a 1.5% levy on top companies in Australia? Not sure it's fair to make them pay or everyone. I think it should be a cost of business for all employers, to varying degrees of course. And with Govt co-contributing of course.
This is designed to try as attract the vote of people exactly like me and my family. But I still won't vote for TA, no matter how much he would put in my back pocket.
18-08-2013 13:25 #7
Yeah i know if you earn 30k a year you won't get 150k. But my understanding is that if you say work 2 shifts at week at pro rata of say $80k (so obviously you wouldn't recieve 80k but would if you worked f/t). that you would receive 80k for PPL.
The details are sketchy atm, so I'm a bit confused how it will work. But even if someone works f/t at 150k a year, surely you have the income to top up the current PPL scheme? Otherwise what I see is a growing middle/high income class that will have lots of kids bc they are making a fortune from it, while lower income people, many who DO work, or their partners work, will keep their families to 1-2 kids.
Not sure how that is far? As I have said over and over, I support the PPL fully. But it's getting pretty ridiculous when women are getting paid 75k in 6 months to be home. This is going to break us financially. Let's increase it, to say 15k (it's current;y 9k?). But matching high income wages is nuts. If the Libs expect low income people to make their own way with kids on 50k. Why is it unfair to expect a 2 income family pulling in 200-300k to top up the existing govt payments?
It's ridiculous they plan to cut funding to the most vulnerable, yet will spend billions of tax payer money we don't have, making wealthy people even more wealthy. Maybe I'm just a pinko, but am I the only one that thinks this is nuts?
18-08-2013 13:31 #8
What's also no fair is you can only get it if you are a perm employee...what about all us contractors or term ppl are we not allowed some help.
It should be all or nothing....that would be fair.
And if they want to go ahead with it makes the companies go 50/50
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18-08-2013 13:33 #9
No you wouldn't get the full time equivalent.
If you earn $100k per year and work three days so get $60k pro rated, you would get $30k PPL, not $50k.
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18-08-2013 13:33 #10
I think it's great that we are starting to value the role of mothers. It's important that we value the role of family and the role of women in the work force. Giving women the opportunity to stay at home and re-enter the work force is an important part of our society.
This scheme while a good start, I don't think goes far enough. It still doesn't put us up where the global leaders are with this. Scandinavian countries do it well and imo this is where we should be headed. 18 weeks is a pittance when you look at other countries.
- Sweden: 420 days, 80 percent of paid wages.
- Denmark: 52 weeks, 100 percent of paid wages.
- Serbia: 52 weeks, 100 percent of paid wages.
- United Kingdom: 52 weeks, 90 percent of paid wages.
- Canada: 52 weeks, 55 percent of paid wages for the first 17 weeks of maternity leave.
- Croatia: 1 year, 100 percent of paid wages.
- Albania: 1 year, 80 percent of paid wages before birth and for the next 150 days after birth. For the rest of the maternity leave, you get 50 percent of paid wages.
- Bosnia and Herzegovina: 1 year, 82 percent of paid wages for the first month, and 75 percent for the rest of the maternity leave.
- Norway: 46 to 56 weeks, 100 percent of paid wages if you take 46 weeks off but 80 percent if you take 56 weeks off.
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