Has charging perpetrators of violence against women (violence in general) decreased the incidence of DV/violence?
I still think there are better approaches to consider.
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27-07-2013 16:34 #111
27-07-2013 16:37 #112Senior Member
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It is definitely food for thought - GirlX said it too. I am a strong supporter of Vaccinations. I think everyone should be vaxxed unless you can't for medical reasons. What happens if they are made mandatory? It is for health reasons, and scientific studies prove time after time that they are safe and effective and very much needed. How would everyone feel about that?
To be honest, I don't really care about smacking, it isn't something that riles me up at all - probably because I was smacked and don't feel traumatised by it. But this does throw up some other questions about government interference and how far it could go.
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27-07-2013 16:39 #113
Last edited by Ellewood; 27-07-2013 at 16:40. Reason: Haha, smacks not snacks! Although I wouldn't say no to snacks either!
27-07-2013 17:08 #114Senior Member
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Why are some of us supporting smacking, well I don't smack my kids, but I am opposed the government having any more legislative control over how I parent and as far as I see it there are other issues with our children that should be addressed first. I personally believe junk food and not vaccinating your kids is was more detrimental than a smack on the bum. I believe home schooling should be banned, I think smoking in the home causes way more health problems and verbal abuse at more psychological problems. So I am not saying go and smack your kids, I am saying back off government!!!
27-07-2013 17:14 #115
27-07-2013 18:36 #116
Anyone who knows me knows that I welcome difference of opinion. Different opinions, presented in an intelligent and informed manner, have the ability to cause people to change the way they think. I have seen it many times. I have been that person on many occasions. You are welcome to your opinion. I would suggest that your wording comes off as rather aggressive, and sarcastic. Perhaps it is not your intention, I don't know.
For the record, while I do feel smacking should not be legal, I originally and subsequently stated that I would have concerns with the enforcement of such legislation. This was in my original post. Since I work for one of the understaffed and allegedly "under caring (your words)" government organisations that would most likely be involved in enforcing this hypothetical legislation, I know first hand how understaffed and overstretched we are in many areas. My concerns are legitimate, as are yours.
There is no poor me mentality here my life is far too enjoyable for that.
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27-07-2013 18:44 #117Member
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Not sure, it should be treated the same way as if you hit another adult. I don't hit my kids, but would tap on the hand when they were little if touching something that could be dangerous and they didn't listen. I was physically and emotionally abused, I was a really well behaved child - because I was scared of my parents, I had no confidence growing up and never felt I could go to them. Yuk I would hate my kids to feel the way I felt growing up
27-07-2013 18:46 #118
In any event, I would think the main point of removing the domestic discipline defence would be to send the strong message that corporal punishment is no longer acceptable and thus deterring the conduct. You would hope that the vast majority of folk are law abiding citizens.
I thought that the stats from the countries where the changes had been implemented reported a decrease in child abuse cases which would actually mean less children being required to give evidence.
I don't know what current DV stats are but surely it is less prevalent now than when society openly condoned physical "discipline" by a husband to his wife.
I agree that other measures might also be beneficial. A change in the law will not do all that is necessary to prevent child abuse but it is a good start in my view as it sends a very clear message that it is not acceptable to use corporal punishment. Early intervention for families at risk and under pressure, including support and education for parents would also assist.
27-07-2013 19:05 #119
I think parents smack as a last resort when children don't respond to discipline and are out of control. Contrary to opinions that there are other ways, many parents feel its very effective when everything else has failed.
I wasn't aware there were so many adults out there so badly effected by being smacked as a child. There were far worse things in my childhood that affected my life in drastic ways and the person I am, relationships etc. than being smacked on the bum occasionally.
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27-07-2013 19:20 #120
As for your first paragraph, it is your opinion and fair enough. But I heartily disagree re children giving evidence even via CCTV, unless it is regarding physical assault in which a child has been injured in which case of course it's a crime.
A decrease in reported child abuse cases does not constitute a decrease in child abuse incidence.
I need to leave it there... I've given my opinions and really have nothing more to add and have other things to do. It's been interesting.
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