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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    The convention is out dated. Being a signatory doesn't guarantee diddly squat (Rudd v Abbot solutions) and being a non signatory doesn't necessarily mean asylum seekers will be treated abhorrently.
    Still unclear as to where you're getting your information from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    The refugee convention only guarantees safe passage. It does not guarantee the upgrading to a first world lifestyle.

    And yes if you did fall in love with an Australian of course you have more reason to be here.
    Again, what is this 'first world lifestyle' and where is this stated in the convention? Why are you not willing to discuss the information you're choosing to take in and why it is not biased? I think that is a pretty fair question.

    Lucky me and my circumstances!
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    Living on the streets and hiding from the authorities are hardly my idea of safe.

    And sourcing information from the today show and calling it unbiased.

    And again, I ask. Why is ok for them to take asylum seekers, but not us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    Still unclear as to where you're getting your information from?
    Most people on here are saying the PNG solution is cruel and unkind ... And we're signatories.

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    Outdated, says who? You? The Today show? Show me the evidence. I would be very surprised if the PNG solution gets by without a challenge in the courts - so I wouldn't be using that as evidence that the convention is outdated just yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    The convention is out dated. Being a signatory doesn't guarantee diddly squat (Rudd v Abbot solutions) and being a non signatory doesn't necessarily mean asylum seekers will be treated abhorrently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Most people on here are saying the PNG solution is cruel and unkind ... And we're signatories.
    And the UN has stated Australia will be breaking international law should they go through with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Most people on here are saying the PNG solution is cruel and unkind ... And we're signatories.
    I'm still wondering what your sources are? Where are your links to the facilities in Indo?

    I have some links, but it was your call, so I thought I'd let you go first...

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Outdated, says who? You? The Today show? Show me the evidence. I would be very surprised if the PNG solution gets by without a challenge in the courts - so I wouldn't be using that as evidence that the convention is outdated just yet.
    Yep - out of date, not out of date, whatever, we're still signed on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst33 View Post
    Again, what is this 'first world lifestyle' and where is this stated in the convention? Why are you not willing to discuss the information you're choosing to take in and why it is not biased? I think that is a pretty fair question.

    Lucky me and my circumstances!
    Exactly. The first world lifestyle is not stated in the convention. The only thing signatories are obliged to do under the convention is to grant safe passage.
    For us to think Australia is the only country in the region that can satisfy that criteria is naive and dare I suggest... A little racist?

    As I mentioned earlier in the thread I am not getting bullied into reading links others try to shove down my throat and I am not getting involved in a tit for tat shredding of sources. Everyone on here (myself included) is biased and sprouting tainted information. That's why I wanted to hear personal stories but I got flamed for that idea.

    Yes you are lucky to live here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Exactly. The first world lifestyle is not stated in the convention. The only thing signatories are obliged to do under the convention is to grant safe passage.
    For us to think Australia is the only country in the region that can satisfy that criteria is naive and dare I suggest... A little racist?

    As I mentioned earlier in the thread I am not getting bullied into reading links others try to shove down my throat and I am not getting involved in a tit for tat shredding of sources. Everyone on here (myself included) is biased and sprouting tainted information. That's why I wanted to hear personal stories but I got flamed for that idea.

    Yes you are lucky to live here.
    Hardly a tit for tat shredding of sources when you haven't provided any.

    You want personal stories, watch Go Back - Tuesday night SBS. I also linked an 8 minute personal story a few pages back.

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