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    I've been seeing ads for this series which will start around 25th July. It's about the fight to save life of drug trafficker Van Nguyen.

    Looking at comments from other websites it seems that l'm one if the few who feel saddened that this young man was hung after being caught with around 400g of heroin. I feel he should have been given the opportunity to turn his life around and that he should have gotten a long gaol sentence instead.

    I've read that people are saying drugs kill etc, but l feel drug users need to take a lot of the responsibility of stuffing up their own lives. Very few people are forced to take drugs.

    Would the people that support the hanging of this young man also support the hanging of drug users too then. Remove them all from the picture then there is no drug problem....

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    I don't think you can compare a drug dealer or a drug smuggler to a drug user. Most smugglers and dealers are making money off the users, who are usually so addicted to the drug that they will do anything to get more. To me, there is a BIG difference.

    That being said, I have little sympathy for drug users, andt a lot less for drug dealers or smugglers.

    For the record, I don't believe in capital punishment at all.

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    Hmm...see l dont see a big difference between the user and smuggler. Both have made bad choices.
    If l use the analogy of guns..I see the drug smuggler as the gun supplier, but the shooter is the drug user.

    Unless you were forced to take drugs...you're not a victim.
    Drug dealers who give drugs to children though are trash.

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    You make it sound so easy to understand, so black and white Just say no, right? And you assume that everyone has the capacity to make a well informed choice. Children are often coerced/pressured to do and take things that aren't good for them. Yes, they are victims. Seemingly well adjusted adults can be duped into doing things that are pretty stupid. That can still make them victims. We have a drug addict/loser/lying, conniving little $%^^&* in our family who has created absolute havoc for the last 12 years. In addition to using they also deal. It's now gotten to the stage where I'd be happy if they dropped off the perch as it would give our family peace. So my attitude to drug addicts and dealers/traffickers is, shall we say, a little tarnished with the soot of reality. Van knew what he was doing. As did the Bali Nine. These penalties didn't just come about overnight. They are well publicised and well known. Irrespective of whether I vouch for capital punishment, it is what it is. Van was found trafficking a dangerous substance, stood to make a fair bit of money from the transaction. Yes, it is sad that he died. How his mother must have suffered. But the outcome is a consequence: the one thing that is noticeably missing from the drug dialogue in this country.
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    Don't think anyone has the right to take another persons life, especially governments. Could never support hanging as a punishment. Jail sentence would be suitable.

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    Well it's easy to sit back and talk about rights when no one is prepared to fulfil their obligations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caviar View Post
    You make it sound so easy to understand, so black and white Just say no, right? And you assume that everyone has the capacity to make a well informed choice. Children are often coerced/pressured to do and take things that aren't good for them. Yes, they are victims. Seemingly well adjusted adults can be duped into doing things that are pretty stupid. That can still make them victims. We have a drug addict/loser/lying, conniving little $%^^&* in our family who has created absolute havoc for the last 12 years. In addition to using they also deal. It's now gotten to the stage where I'd be happy if they dropped off the perch as it would give our family peace. So my attitude to drug addicts and dealers/traffickers is, shall we say, a little tarnished with the soot of reality. Van knew what he was doing. As did the Bali Nine. These penalties didn't just come about overnight. They are well publicised and well known. Irrespective of whether I vouch for capital punishment, it is what it is. Van was found trafficking a dangerous substance, stood to make a fair bit of money from the transaction. Yes, it is sad that he died. How his mother must have suffered. But the outcome is a consequence: the one thing that is noticeably missing from the drug dialogue in this country.
    Agree 100%.

    My brother is a druggy, a user and a seller.
    Yep there's a lot of publicity these days, there is no excuse for the stupidity of people that take this risk trafficking, they can't say they didn't know the consequences particularly when doing it in other countries.
    I have 0 sympathy whatsoever!

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