I really don't think she is saying this of ALL SAHM's at all (please correct me if i'm wrong Cassieh). More just those who seem to have this underlying attitude of "why would I possibly work when I can get more money from the government".
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08-07-2013 12:44 #141
08-07-2013 12:46 #142
You have gone further than just stating whether SAHMs should receive the same PPL as working mums. You can't go on like you do and expect no one to respond.
With that mindset, don't ever allow your child to order from the canteen; don't ever allow your child to go on an excursion or participate in a school sporting event that has parent helpers; don't ever let your child organise an after school play date because their friend's Mum can actually be there to host it.
08-07-2013 12:50 #143
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I'm not sure what other public schools are like, but my daughter's primary school pretty much relies on parent volunteers. They're an important part of the reading program in kindergarten so the kids can have one-on-one reading time at school (especially important for kids whose parents don't read to them at all at home).
My experience IRL has been that there's actually quite a bit of mutual respect between working parents and sahm parents, and those who are unable to help (such as myself) due to work or study, very much appreciate parents who can and do volunteer.
I haven't heard any sahm/working mums complaining about the amount they get from the government either, but it hasn't really come up in conversation.
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08-07-2013 12:56 #145
Firstly let me add the disclaimer that I am a single working parent who earns too much to get any money from the pension but I do receive FTB A & B and I also received the baby bonus for my DS1 (was still married and worked full time up until I had him) and I then received PPL for my DS2. I also was a SAHM for a year after each child funded by my work maternity leave and my (at the time) husband's income. So this reply is coming from a person who has not survived solely on government payments.
But it seems perhaps Cassieh that you are a little high up there on your horse. A monkey's uncle knows that the examples of SAHM's that you've based your opinion on is a very select group that forms a minority of the collective that you are bashing.
Of course there are those who rort the system - they are not ripping you off though... I took the liberty of highlighting that part of your reply... Because let's face it YOU don't pay for her to do that. If that were the case you'd be an extremely generous 'non' friend paying for her to live that way huh? Saying YOU are paying for SAHMs is no different to a tax paying person without children being horrified at 'their' money paying for a working mum to take leave with the PPL. Unless you are actually handing over cash to this mother, then all you are doing is paying your taxes. Just like me - sorry if I just bursted some kind of bubble you had there thinking you were paying for all these women receiving payments.
You are absolutely entitled to your opinion but you do realise that you are ill informed I hope. The amazing $6000 tax return of a single parent without an income is about as realistic as my imaginary boyfriend. I like to 'think' it's going to happen - but I'm afraid it's just not reality.
Everyone has the option to be a SAHM funded by the government (unless their family income prohibits it) but honestly I take my hat off to those who can make it work. Because even as a single parent who would be entitled to higher payments for that reason I choose to work because quite simply I like to have extra money in the bank.
I wouldn't dare judge a SAHM for making a lifestyle decision that best suits her family - just as I wouldn't acknowledge any judgment cast upon me as a working mother making a lifestyle that best suits my family. No matter how well you think you know the ins and outs of someone's finances - unless you are that person (or have control over their finances) then you only know what you've been told and I think it's fair to say the information you've been filtered is not really a holistic view.
I think you have taken out your anger towards people you know in real life on some undeserving SAHMs on here and I think it very unfair for you to base opinions on a broad range of circumstances on a the very minute list of cases you've pointed out.
Sorry SAHMs if you've been offended and delirium please don't take the views of other working mum's as a pack mentality. I for one don't think in that way. Not in the slightest.
But in answer to your question OP yes I do think it is fair that those earning an income are supplemented at a higher rate while others still receive additional benefits that working mothers are not entitled to due to said income.
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What type of payments do SAHM's actually receive once their children have entered school? Could anyone enlighten me?
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