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    I'm currently a stay at home mum to a 10 year old at school and will be able to claim a fair bit on tax next year because I'm still paying tax on my income and on top of that there are the extra family assistance payments at tax time which she could well be adding onto it. For 3 kids, that's a fair amount right there without anything else. If she isn't partnered she could have child support as well and be getting some of his tax return in backpay. My mum was only receiving less than half what she was meant to through the year then when my dad did his tax the year's worth of unpaid child support would be taken from his tax return and given to her. She'd put that away for all the following years' activities like school and sports things knowing she would be underpaid for the following 12 months as well.

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    I didn't start this thread & just because my opinion is different to yours, doesn't mean I'm not entitled to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    I am a stay at home mum and have been most of the last 19 years and I will be for ever more. I really don't care what other think about that. I know we have made the right decision for our family. We have sacrificed a lot for me to stay at home and so we don't earn a lot who cares, We are happy.
    Totally agree that a lot of SAHM's and their families sacrifice a lot so they can have that sort of life. I think both have advantages and disadvantages and that's why the help the government provides doesn't bother me. At the end of the day it balances out.

    To me it's really as simple as this -

    SAHM's that have to get by with a lower household income even with government help might have to make sacrifices that others don't so no need to be mad at them.

    Those that return to work could have a substantially higher household income (and not need any gov help) and that's great because that's the path and lifestyle they chose. If they aren't happy they could take the above path and make some sacrifices to stay at home too.

    Then there are SAHM's that have spouses/partners that earn the equivalent of 2 incomes don't have to rely on government assistance anyway.

    I don't see any of these hurting anyone else or disadvantaging anyone. There's always two sides to everything.

    I could argue that because DP and I work full time and earn decent money we will be able to maintain our current lifestyle even with the kiddies (things like going overseas each year etc) BUT a SAHM could argue that whilst financially they may not be well off they get to be with their child all day long.

    So in short, no need to put down either side or let government assistance bother you. If someone was a SAHM and earning even close to what I do working then I would simply become a SAHM Simple!!



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    Cassieh...

    So all children should be put into childcare while all mums work? Whats the cut off age? 6 months, 12 months? What about extended breastfeeders?

    Why is contributing to society only measured by dollar signs?

    Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a job within school hours? And how much before and after school care costs? Esp if you have more than one child. I think its unfair for a child to be away from home for 12 hours a day (yes some are). They need to see their parents, they need help with homework etc.

    Im a sahm, my dh works full time, we still receive a tiny amount of Parenting partnered payments and FTB A and B. I am entitled by law to those payments and im not required to look for work, by law. Im thankful we have a government that puts value on being a stay at home parent.

    Its the best thing for our family. I have no intention of returning to work and we are about to start TTC number 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post
    I didn't start this thread & just because my opinion is different to yours, doesn't mean I'm not entitled to it.
    My mistake, not sure why it got fixed in my head that you were the OP.

    I'm not saying that you're not entitled to your opinion, I just want to know why you have that opinion. And now I'm curious as to why you'd express it, if you're not prepared to back up your reasoning.

    So why is it so frustrating that the SAHM hasn't gone back to work? How does it affect you? Is she complaining about being broke? Borrowing money off you? I honestly don't understand why her decision in this area is a source of frustration for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post

    I think it's incredibly frustrating that a mother I know has 3 kids that are all at school, yet she still hasn't got a job... I can understand mothers wanting to be at home with their kids, but when does it end??? Surely once the kids are at school (and not even at home) then that should be a time when the mum seeks at least part time employment??
    To clarify do you mean it's frustrating that some parents never go back to work when their kids are at school but rely on government welfare? If they can afford to stay home for 20 years, does it matter? To some families, a woman wants to be in the home long term and it's a valuable role. I'm sure it's not a choice most families could make, but some would love to! Especially is you have lots of kids spaced out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    I am a stay at home mum and have been most of the last 19 years and I will be for ever more. I really don't care what other think about that. I know we have made the right decision for our family. We have sacrificed a lot for me to stay at home and so we don't earn a lot who cares, We are happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickyBee View Post
    My mistake, not sure why it got fixed in my head that you were the OP.

    I'm not saying that you're not entitled to your opinion, I just want to know why you have that opinion. And now I'm curious as to why you'd express it, if you're not prepared to back up your reasoning.

    So why is it so frustrating that the SAHM hasn't gone back to work? How does it affect you? Is she complaining about being broke? Borrowing money off you? I honestly don't understand why her decision in this area is a source of frustration for you.
    Yes, she is constantly whining about being broke ... Constantly depending on her parents ... Yet she can still afford to get her nails done, buy new clothes & go out to dinner 2-3 times a week.. While her bills aren't paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    To clarify do you mean it's frustrating that some parents never go back to work when their kids are at school but rely on government welfare? If they can afford to stay home for 20 years, does it matter? To some families, a woman wants to be in the home long term and it's a valuable role. I'm sure it's not a choice most families could make, but some would love to! Especially is you have lots of kids spaced out.
    Yes I do... And I get annoyed with parents who CAN'T afford it. I don't care if parents make sacrifices (hubby working away, moving for work, etc) to supplement the lost income & have the ability to be a sahm.... Realistically, my partner earns more than enough for me to stay at home & we aren't entitled to anything from the government.. And if I stayed at home that would be my choice.. But I think once a child is at school & is past the point of needing someone to look after them all day.. I don't think it's completely outrageous & unbelievable to expect a sahm to seek employment if she can...

    I really hate the attitude that oh why would I work when the government pays me just as much.

    Maybe it's just that every single stay at home mum I know has left me with an incredibly bad taste in my mouth.

    1. Has her child only 50% off the time, always whinging about not having any money (no reason why she can't find a job - when she only has her son 50% off the time).. Yet instead she spends that time getting stoned & drinking. Oh, and she also gets stoned while she's at home with her son all day... So I'm paying for her to sit at home with her son while she's stoned. Not productive.

    2. I have previously spoken about. All kids are in school, she constantly whiners about not being able to pay her bills, yet she's always got her nails done, new clothes, and goes out for dinner 2-3 times a week. She also talks to me about how her children have lots of learning difficulties.. Yet she's more concerned about finding a new boyfriend to make her feel good about herself then spending time helping her kids.

    3. Is a sahm who also never has any money. Yet they both smoke, drink & take drugs. Constantly asking to borrow money & always expecting us to shout them every time we go somewhere.

    I have absolutely nothing against SAHMS if you can afford to do so, and you aren't just completely rorting this system..

    To be fair, I apologize for some of my comments... But with my experiences of sahm can you really blame me?

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    Well thats unfair to tar all SAHMs with the few you know whise morals differ from your own. Im a SAHM and I do none of these things and when my kids go to school, I still wont. Its to do with morals not with the job of SAHM. You need to get out and meeg new people clearly.

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