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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus View Post
    The physical size of Australia is not relevant in any argument on population it can support.
    That was the solution my father suggested - send all the refuges to the centre of Australia (with sufficient building supplies, access to skilled support and tools, and see what a productive settlement they could create.

    Then I realised the big negative against such an idea - such land typically belongs to native title, so it is not an option.

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    Since Australia's fertility rate is below replacement level, I think it's important that people migrate here.

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    And that would be great (if we had the infrastructure), if I had the influence, I'd be pushing infrastructure changes first. It seems to me one of the biggest problems we have in australia, is the time people spend in detention, which is detrimental to all concerned.

    Unless changes are made to our processing, its only going to get worse as more people come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Since Australia's fertility rate is below replacement level, I think it's important that people migrate here.
    True. And I don't mean this in a heartless way but if the prosperity of the country is to be ensured we need to ensure a majority of migrants are skilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    True. And I don't mean this in a heartless way but if the prosperity of the country is to be ensured we need to ensure a majority of migrants are skilled.
    What makes you think asylum seekers aren't skilled?

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    From the paper today:

    AUSTRALIA'S refugee determination process has broken down completely, admitting large numbers of people whose claims to refugee status are fraudulent.


    The claims come from a former senior Immigration Department official who says the system favours those who tell lies over those who tell the truth, is easily scammed and has become utterly dysfunctional.

    “Having considerable experience interviewing and assessing boat arrival claims, I can confidently say ... that we are approving large numbers of people who are fabricating claims,” he wrote in an unpublished account of the process, obtained by The Weekend Australian…
    The Weekend Australian also interviewed a former member of the Refugee Review Tribunal, who ... said that asylum-seekers on Christmas Island told him they had simply copied their claims from other applicants who had been successful.

    The former tribunal member said that transcripts of court cases in which asylum-seeker appeals had been upheld circulated widely on Christmas Island so that claimants, and their advocates, could see what testimony had been successful.
    “I would sometimes receive a completely compelling story that was impossible to refuse,” the former tribunal member said. “The problem is I would receive 100 other identical stories with only the names changed."…
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226664169170

    This needs to be stopped. This is not how you are supposed to immigrate to Australia.

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    Yawn. What a surprise that this was published in a News Limited publication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    What makes you think asylum seekers aren't skilled?
    Some might be, some night not be. Being skilled isn't a criteria for asylum. So if the majority of our migration was from asylum seekers (not saying it is, this is just a hypothetical) then the government wouldn't have any control over the quality of the migration worker pool.

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    Yawn, two people saying that and nobody else. Yawn, you have no idea who those people are or what happened to them. They could have been fired for all you know and now are trying to get pay back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I get that.

    The article also gives details of numbers of refugees per million people.
    And the make up of Australia's land is a big reason that Australia finds it hard to accommodate it's current population.

    A lot of changes need to be made to the infrastructure of our urban communities. There's a real reason as to why our farms are so much bigger in terms of area than farms in other countries.

    It's really tricky to compare refugees per million people when Australia doesn't have the fertile land to support people that a lot of smaller countries do.


 

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