Sunshinebell, sorry to hear that. Is it normal to stay with the clinic after BFP? I was told that if it is a normal preg (not ivf), the care from the GP is extremely minimal. Thus, i expect a fertility clinic would have done more. I am still surprised to know that there are only 2 (?) scans for the entire preg in australia. Anyway, i will PM you once i have a proper internet connection. Posting from phone.
Caketin, yup, not long now.
WishnHope, if anything i have learned, life just isn't fair. We still cant get the company to sponsor us to apply for PR even though we have been living here for nearly 6 yrs and with high qualification (yet another one yr job extension which isnt eligible). It is just that we somehow arent the skilled migrant that the govt is looking for. Life moves on. We have come into the conclusion that this would be all out of pocket expenses (most expensive priv insurance premium has a yr waiting period). You can always earn the money back but you cant buy the time and happiness with the baby. Baby is priceless.
All the best everyone. Hope july will come soon to make progress on this baby thing.
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18-06-2013 13:58 #81Senior Member
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18-06-2013 14:40 #82
Bbhope that truly sucks about your work!! I couldnt imagine being out of pocket for the entire amount and I am for ever grateful the Govt does give us something! We're very lucky DH and I both earn well and can afford 6 or 7 shots at this before becomes an issue. It's just incredibly frustrating to see those who can get handed everything and those who cant struggle at every turn
18-06-2013 17:05 #83
In answer ... I dont know what normsl but pivet get you to have bloods weekly from wk4-8 monitoring hormones. Week 8 scan and fs appt, week 12 scan and fs appt. All of which are billed extra. but they explain it as they oversee you until week 12 (but only after the 8wk appt do they tell you its not part of ivf fees ... but that wasnt my gripe, as you have to pay somewhere to have it done)
On the first trimester ivf thread seems some of the girls at other clinics have only 2bloods and thats it. Some clinics want to do your 8 week scan then send you off.
Hope that helps.
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18-06-2013 17:08 #84
Hollywood it's bloods till 8 weeks & a scan at about 6/7 weeks... But you are encouraged to seek an OB as soon as you get you BFP, I had my first appointment with OB at 8 weeks :-) after my finals bloods at the clinic they sent all my info to OB so he could start my care.
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18-06-2013 21:43 #85
I'm going overseas for donated embryos. Has anyone here had Dr Jequier as a specialist to do something like that?
20-06-2013 11:36 #86Junior Member
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HI TTC'vers in Perth and IVF patients, I too am an IVF patient, for 8 years now. I just wanted to give you some feedback from someone who is a little further 'along' on the whole IVF clinic road.
I first went to Pivet in 2005 and after their very thorough testing, which included a laproscopy, (I had endo) I fell pregnant with my first go at IVF in early 2006. I have a 6yo son. We ended up freezing 3 embryos (5d) from that round.
The Dr I had back then has since left Pivet (Douglas Hee.)
In 2009 we decided that wanted another baby. This was kickstarted by my first natural pregnancy in mid 2009 which miscarried at 5 weeks. I returned to Pivet and did a FET. I had a new Dr, (pm if you want his name.) The Dr didn't seem too interested that I had had a natural pregnancy, so I did the transfer. I got a BFP, but it had a weak heartbeat from the start and ended up dying at 9 weeks.
Yes, the fertility clinics give you more care in trimester 1 when you get a BFP because if you had fallen pregnant naturally, you really don't see an Ob until you've passed 12 wks. They basically let that first trimester pass in case you do miscarry - which is very common. They charge you more for that because the cost of IVF is to get you pregnant, once you get pregnant, then they are treating you for a pregnancy - extra $$.
So anyway, early 2010 I transferred another frozen embie - BFN. Late 2011 I went to transfer my last embie and the clinic told me to do a fresh cycle as I would have a better chance, which I agreed as my son was from a fresh cycle.
So early 2012 I asked for a new Dr at Pivet (I felt the last one was not lucky for me) and I did a fresh cycle - BFN. Late 2012 I again fell pregnant naturally and miscarried at 5 weeks. I went in to see this 3rd Dr at Pivet (again, pm me if you would like her name) and she didn't even seem interested that I could fall pregnant naturally. She just wanted to book me in for the FET and get me out of her office ASAP. So I did the FET in April this year and again, BFN.
Not once did this Dr seem at all interested in my case. Given that I have been a patient there for 8 years, and I am nearly a decade older, she didn't seem to want to look at my case on an individual level. She barely looked through my (very large) file.
I have complained to the clinic, and the senior nurses advised me that I should see Dr Yovich, the clinic Dr. They told me that he is a lateral thinker and basically takes over the long-term failure cases. "He is very good at getting you pregnant." But at a cost - $300 each for my husband and I just for the initial consult! I was blown away. After all of those thousands of dollars we have spent there, where the Dr's have barely looked into my file, they now tell me that if I REALLY want to get pregnant, I should see the special Dr who is REALLY GOOD at his job (how was I to know that the Dr I was seeing was not the best Dr in there?) And at a premium cost too!
I am sure Dr Yovich is good. In fact I have spoken to him and heard a lot of good things about him, I just wish someone could have told me all of this before, because I would have gone straight to him, and saved myself wasted time and money.
So my advice to any of you is, if you want to get the best care from the start, ask for the director, or most senior Dr in the clinic you go to.
And another piece of advice, if you have frozen embies, and you are not getting the service you want from the clinic you have been going to, go to another as you can take your embies with you. There is no point in being unhappy with your clinic, as it has an affect on your state of mind, and that needs to be in tip-top shape for IVF.
Pivet was ok at the start. Certainly Dr Hee was a fantastic Dr. And despite one nurse that advised me of the wrong dosage of my injections once, all the nurses are great. The front admin staff are good too. But the Dr's are not always the 'best' there.
They are not the type of clinic where you get the same nurse and Dr everytime you go in - they work on a roster system, so that can be very disheartening when you go in for the transfer (naked waist down, legs in stirrups etc) and a stranger walks in to do the transfer. I am sure you could ask for the same Dr and nurse and they would probably try.
But the general gist I get after going to Pivet for 8 years is: they are happy to take your money, and not as interested in getting the positive results, because more failures mean more money to them.
I hope this helps at least one of you make the right decision for yourself.
And good luck all of you!
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21-06-2013 14:20 #87Senior Member
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wishnhope: Yes, very frustrated about the work situation but there is nothing we can do. I don't want to bore you with the details. In short, we waited for many years to get the PR stuff sorted out but only empty promises. We decided to go ahead with the baby plan without the PR after few years of saving in the hope that we have something to look forward to. Unfortunately, I didn't fall pregnant. Then, that came the devastated SA result. I don't know if we can afford for more than one cycle at this point........We will see what the doctor says on our first appointment.
Net: Sorry, can't help you with that.
kyrazanda: Thanks for providing your honest review. I might be generalised here. I truly feel that the private practices have less interest in their patients. Unfortunately, there aren't many public fertility clinics in Perth. The lack of interest in patients is certainly worried me. I wonder how many people out there can actually get pregnant naturally but were convinced to do the IVF in the end.
24-06-2013 22:17 #88Junior Member
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Hi all, Just jumping in here, having just discovered this little gem of a place.
Unfortunatley I only had the one that cycle. Dr Jequier was shocked and we are going ahead with post transfer stuff, as she thinks there is a chance that it might be there but I don't feel confident.
I had Dr. Ambekar before she got sick and I really liked her. Anyone know if she is back?
Looking at another cycle ASAP since I think the last was a lost one.
Sorry for the venting intro post, but good to have finally somewhere to talk about the experience.
25-06-2013 10:46 #89
No baby dust our way again.
As usual, thought this would work and being our last fresh cycle.
These were our 10th and 11th embryo's that I feel I did everything I could. Did the whole DHEA, growth hormone, 2 endometrial scratches prior to egg collection. Also insisted on high dose progesterone right from start post transfer (always low), high dose prednisolone addressing perhaps natural killer cell issues, higher dose verapamil addressing cramps I get. But still no positives my way. The only positives I have ever had were my very first cycle back in 2009.
This time round I was determined to have in place some coping techniques in place prior. After all trying to cope when you are already devestated and full of hormones just doesn't work for me.
Prior to this all I bought a beautiful turquise blue lotus flower tealight. Every night thru the 2ww, I lit at night to recognise the journey and provide some calm. I also got a beautiful journal with handmade paper (you know the ones you don't want to use cause they are so nice!) and wrote positives about our life as it is right now.
Well I have to say, this has really helped.
I do have a beautiful little girl already and am facing that she must be my one and only miracle. It's a hard one but I have to start acceptance.
Our lives need to start over again without constantly having IVF taking over every part of it. We have tried for 10 years and IVF since 2009 with no breaks. I have to believe that we have given it a good go and that it just wasn't going to happen for us again. No point being angry with others or myself but acceptance.
We have 1 left in freezer which isn't great so as matter of finalising things, I will use but somewhere later on.
25-06-2013 11:05 #90
Im soo sorry to hear that Lotty. Nothing I can say will make you feel better. Goid Luck with the last frosty.
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