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    Supervising isn't just about being able to physically see someone... I have "supervised" a team spread across the state, so the argument from your colleagues that she can't supervise effectively if she is not there "watching them" doesn't wash with me - back to the old days of hairy eyeball management and clock watching!

    I do have to say though, some jobs lend themselves better to that scenario than others.
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    It also makes you wonder what kind of employees she is supervising if there is concern the minute she is physically away from them they will run amok!

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    Agree! Plenty of manager supervise teams in other offices, states and countries. It's very old school to think you need to be in the same location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    A couple of questions for you ladies:

    1) Can a part-timer realistically head up a team?
    2) In your workplace, if someone goes part time after having a kid, is that managed effectively?
    - Do managers hire more staff or cut work levels?
    - Or is the part-timer expected to handle a full time workload over part time hours? Are other workers expected to pick up the slack and in doing so have above average workload.
    Yes we have several part timers who head teams. Two of them job share and another three have their own jobs. Each team has a 2IC so if not there then the 2IC deals with it after consultation with leader.

    They work their hours only. If something urgent comes up 2IC deals with it. I'm a 2IC. The only thing is that we both can't take leave at the same time and I go full time when the team leader is on annual leave.

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    My Managers in the entire three workplaces I've ever worked have NEVER been available 24/7 anyway. I believe if staff have been trained effectively, there is no need for the team leader to be on hand all the time. I had to 'book' to see my old manager as he was so rarely around but I felt I knew the job well enough if somebody came in and chucked a sad I handled it on my own and just informed him next time I saw him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    It also makes you wonder what kind of employees she is supervising if there is concern the minute she is physically away from them they will run amok!
    Agree. If you make sure people know what their jobs are, are equipped with the appropriate skills and are treated Well by management ... Then a day of working from home shouldn't matter. I couldn't work from home though, I think it would be hard to actually be productive. That's just me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missie_mack View Post
    Yes I do think management roles can be done part time.

    It does happen in my workplace and generally is effective- not working five days a week is treated much the same as any other role as even our fulltime staff don't work a 10 day fortnight.

    Part time work comes in so many different forms that I don't think the picture can be painted as black and white as VP would like. Having part time work allows employers greater flexibility as well as the employee. In my workplace we have part time employees who work 33 hours a week, 30 hours a week, 25 hours a week, 24 hours a week all the way down to 7.5 hours a week- some of these working almost every day and some working few.
    If its assumed on face value that it cannot work at all, not enough consideration and alternatives have been considered IMO
    What things makes a part time management role workable?
    - seriously interested!

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    If all work is allocated well (the managers role and responsibilities and their staff) it is most definitely doable, but in my experience I'm part time (3days) and I personally struggle as they still basically expect me to do the same amount of work as my colleague in the exact same role who works 5 days AND gets paid for it (especially concerning when my output is more and of a better quality than said colleague.)

    If the expectations of my role were different it would be far better for my productivity and I would say this is the same for part time managers.

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    In my workplace all of the team managers are full time at the moment, although I know one is ttc so that could change. I think it would work just fine - the whole team is never in the one location - in any given day some are at Court (various locations), some are at the client's offices and some are in the office, and usually one or two are on sick/annual/flex leave.

    Our work system is structured very cleverly such that we are all capable of picking up any file and dealing with it on the day and we have a fantastic database where we can instantly find what advice/appearances/correspondence etc has been done on the file previously.

    Most "manager" type requests (leave requests, training requests etc) are done by email so can be responded to when next in the office. Each team also has very competent senior members (like me!), some of whom are part time, who can deal with difficult files and difficult matter issues perfectly fine as they arise in the absence of the manager.

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    In my old job, it was common to have managers and senior managers in part time positions. One of the most successful people I worked with had 3 under 4 (one set of twins) and worked part time in a senior HR role during an organizational restructure which she oversaw. She was super organized, answered urgent emails and phone calls on her day off and made sure there was someone we could go to on her non working days.

    We often also had job share arrangements where both managers were 0.6. This meant one day of overlap where they could catch up and stay in the loop with each other. It worked well and was something I was going to do myself until I decided I was going to resign instead. The key there though was effective communication.


 

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