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    There's no way labor is going to win!

    But the belief that liberal come in and "fix" Australia is not necessarily true.

    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/nation...-1226056371414

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialPatrolGroup View Post
    That was a matter of equity. The market value of set top boxes at the time that the closure of analogue singnals would be turned off was announced was much higher and many disadvanted Australians, many of whom are housebound due to disability, struggle to scrape together $40 for medications or therapy, let alone for a set top box.
    I certainly wasn't suggesting that $40 was easy - I was saying $350 was over the top. The cost at stores at the time was $140.

    I wasn't boasting about my ability to spend $40 - far from it.

    It doesn't take away from the fact that the government spent more than required on this one. Same as with the NBN - the costs for this are astronomical. And while it's taking so long to roll out, the technology is being overtaken.

    The NBN truly makes me laugh - have you seen the costs of some of the plans? It's more expensive than most Australians would be on, and certainly doesn't mean that fast internet is going to now be available to all Australians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialPatrolGroup View Post
    That was a matter of equity. The market value of set top boxes at the time that the closure of analogue singnals would be turned off was announced was much higher
    Really??? Show me where you get that idea from. Retailers at the time were quoting $39 dollars.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226054260906

    I think you might be in some denial as to how much this government has wasted.

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    Labor won't win ( scary thought) ..I am interested to watch liberal in charge..it's going to be very funny! (although hugely scary as well...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maybelline View Post
    Labor won't win ( scary thought) ..I am interested to watch liberal in charge..it's going to be very funny! (although hugely scary as well...)
    Not sure what you are so scared of? Or what you think is going to be funny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Really??? Show me where you get that idea from. Retailers at the time were quoting $39 dollars.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226054260906

    I think you might be in some denial as to how much this government has wasted.
    And you may have blinders on when looking at the liberal party document with a jazzy cover that makes itt look like an edgy, independent, street press publication.

    I don't have a jb hi-fi catalogue from 4 years ago lying around to reference. I do know from buying one for a family member a number of years ago that a HD set top box was not $39 (the other ones were, SD, but they didn't pick up all of the channels) but at a minimum about $140 for a very cheap HD unit (soniq or similar). So in order to provide a unit that would have a lifespan beyond the final closure of the signal, I think a bargain basement unit would have been false economy.
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    Very interesting and certainly shows the holes in the argument that the libs spend less and better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Not sure what you are so scared of? Or what you think is going to be funny?
    Speaking for myself, I'm rather concerned for our family. If Abbott delivers on all the cuts to low and middle income while giving tax cuts to the more wealthy it is going to hurt us quite a bit.

    Not everyone is lucky to earn 150k+ a household.... and of course we know the libs take funding from those that most need it and redistribute it to the wealthy.

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    The link that BRV posted showed that the libs had greater private debt - not government debt. It led to greater influx of taxes etc. The income that the Gillard government has now is greater than the Howard government had at the time.

    Yet their spending is greater. The link does not show holes in the argument that the libs spend less, the link does show that the libs spend in different areas.

    It does not dispute that advertising a carbon tax we had no choice in was a big waste of money, or that set top boxes could have been done for cheaper. (There was no necessity for HD) Or that the NBN could have been done for cheaper.


 

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