Hi Mrs P.......Hope all's well in your world, your son's feeling better and AF has reared her ugly head by now Is CD6 for me and tonight I add 1/2 injection of Cetrotide @ 9pm (for tonight and tomorrow night) to the daily concoction. As I was saying to Domiffy earlier, the twinges I've been getting in my right ovary have been increasing as of yesterday evening and now I'm feeling it on the left side too. Been feeling twinges in my breasts here and there as well....trying to work out if it's from the Progynova tabs or from the HCG in the Menopur??? Other than that, I'm feeling pretty good on the whole. I do feel tired today despite getting almost 7 hrs sleep last night (though I did wake up 3-4 times, but thankfully went back to sleep) Am still battling with the insomnia though....one night I'll get a pretty decent sleep (like last night) then for the next few nights, I'll only get 5 hrs sleep or sleep for 2 hrs, wake up for 2hrs, sleep for 2 hrs etc and my stomach has started to bloat. Have put on almost 2kg's in bloating/fluid thanks to all the drugs, but that's normal for me when I do a cycle (around 3kg's is my usual amount of weight gain)....Oh, and the Clexane injections have been a lot easier and less painful thanks to your helpful hints + me icing the area beforehand..... That's all to report for now......take care Mrs P......be back with an update after I see WDA on Fri
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29-05-2013 15:34 #31
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29-05-2013 20:06 #32Member
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Hey BinB, well my little guys managed to make it to day 2. I had 1x2 cell and 1x3 cell when I called for an update at 10am today – both average grade 3 at the moment… so holed up in my accommodation and will call tomorrow for another update. As I’m a fan of 3DT, transfer was originally going to be tomorrow but have decided to make those little guys earn a place in my uterus so crossing fingers they make it to blast by Sat. If they both make it to blast I will have them both put back – the chances of this old ducks eggs both implanting is slim to none I’d say so the more the merrier.
I was wondering about the whole empty follicle thing as from what I’ve read no follicle is empty it’s just a matter of whether the egg will release from the foll wall or not. Sometimes if it does not release it is because it’s abnormal but it can also be because it’s immature – so am clinging to the belief my eggs aren’t s%*t that they were just not ready quite for EPU. I was initially prescribed a 5000 pregnyl trigger by WDA but I managed to scrounge another 5000 from QFG in Cairns where I was having my scans as I was concerned about such a low dose (I triggered with 10000 in December). In the end I triggered with around 6500 on the recommendation of WDA. Time over I would have definitely used the full 10000. M/C earlier in the year was so hard, and it was a very long drawn out process (took me three weeks to m/c). My grief stemmed more from the fact that it might have been my one and only shot at motherhood so I felt I was grieving over the possibility I might never be a mum rather than just the loss of the bub. But DP and I have, as we all do, picked ourselves up and will keep on going for as long as we can. I’m not ready to throw in the towel yet and will have another few rounds with my eggs then maybe consider donor.
Seems to me like you guys still have a really great shot at IVF success in spite of DH sperm issues. You have had a good response in the past with the retrieval of 9 eggs and it’s just a matter of getting the timing right and WDAs magic touch… plus at 39 you’re still a spring chicken . I like the sound of your ovary twinges… lets hope there’s a party going on down there. I’m cheering you on from the sidelines and on the edge of my seat waiting to hear about your scan results on Friday.
29-05-2013 21:59 #33
Hi BinB and Domiffy, - Again I've been reading, but with some friends in town I have little time to reply, so I promise I'll back to you soon. In the mean time I'm sending bucket loads of baby dust , and keeping my fingers and toes crossed that I read about 2 great blasts, and lots of fat follies.
Cheers girls, MrsP...
30-05-2013 12:49 #34
Hi Domiffy girl!!
Great news on the emby front love.....Am fully expecting them to have kept on growing nicely and you'll be back to report sometime today/tonight on their progress.....I'll be keeping everything they keep multiplying and dividing into beautiful blastocyst's for you
Yep,fully agree about the "more the merrier" regarding the DET (not about the "old duck" comment....LOL.... though I do get where you're coming from regarding both emby's sticking. Same here, which is why I've always done DET too) Yes, have read about the follicle not releasing from the wall etc myself as you have mentioned. Am sure WDA will clarify for you when you and DP have your follow-up discussion whether they were properly ready or not or if your trigger was a high enough dosage......I told him at my initial appointment I was concerned that maybe my dosage wasn't high enough last time or I was triggered too early and was it reasonable to try triggering me this cycle at a higher dose (possibly 1.5x normal amount) and with Pregnyl instead of Ovidrel and he (at the time) agreed to do both. Will discuss it with him again tomorrow just to make sure we're on the same page (and he hasn't changed his mind!!!)
As I've mentioned to Mrs P in an earlier post, I'm quite fearful of the same result that happened last cycle with my eggs happening again this cycle so want to cut out as many risk factors that I can....at least the one's that are within WDA's abilitly to control
I hear you regarding your grief over the possibility of not being a mum. I've shed many a tear too over the thought of that myself. I feel that should we not become parents, DP won't be as devastated as I will be as he's already got two adult children from a previous relationship he had in his early-mid 20's. My DP doesn't see it like that, but I do. I just feel it won't be as hard for him to accept it and move on as it will be for me should it come to that. I try not to think about it too much, as I'm more of a "cross that bridge if and when we come to it" kind of person, but it's still something I've had to seriously consider. Yep, DP and I still have a chance, but the odds are against us. I know at my age (and thanks for the "spring chicken" compliment...feel more like an old "boiling hen" most days) that the majority of whatever eggs my ovaries still have left are going to be most probably more bad than good and that all I can hope for is that there'll be a few good one's among the others at EPU. That's the reality of the situation unfortunately....we can only try and hope for the best. DP and I have also talked about donor eggs etc, but that isn't for us. We decided that before we even started our first cycle, but in no way do I judge anyone else on their choices.....it's about what works for the individual/couple etc (I so hope I haven't offended you love, I certainly don't mean to in any shape, way or form) I'm not ready to give up either, but money (or lack thereof) is what's going to force us to end our journey.
Thanks so much for your support I really appreciate it. Will let you know how I get on tomorrow. Look forward to reading the same for you!!!! Until then girl!!!!
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30-05-2013 13:18 #35
Hi Mrs P.........
Not much new to report here from my end. It's CD7 and it's more of the "same old, same old"....more insomnia, more bloating, more fluid retention.....you get my drift!!! Tomorrow will be the first hurdle to overcome Added the Cetrotide injection last night, no probs there. Hope you're enjoying time with your friends. Appreciate your support too. I know you're keeping up with what's happening and will post when you're able, so don't worry Update for you, Domiffy and any other ladies reading tomorrow
30-05-2013 21:58 #36
Just a quick, before bed, Good luck!!!!
For your embies to be growing like the vines up my pool fence, Domify,
And BinB, for your scan to show lots of lovely black spots tomorrow.
Oh, after 3 days of spotting I got AF right on time (27 day cycle). On the bench for another month cheering you girls on.
Now, for me it's time.
30-05-2013 22:05 #37Member
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Hey BinB Well they made it to day 3. Phew. 1x6 cell and 1x7 cell and still grade 3. I had to change accomm today and had a little time before I could check in so had a wander and popped into St something’s cathedral just round the corner, said a prayer for the little guys, lit a candle and teared up a bit. No offence taken re the donor eggs – it’s a tough decision and not for everyone, DP and I have really only skated around the idea at this stage. DP has no kids either and is desperate to be a dad, I don’t know if that makes it easier or harder that we both want it so badly.
You sound like you will have every base covered in terms of what is within your control and good to have an opportunity tomorrow to nail it all down. It is refreshing to work with a FS who will readily accommodate patient feedback and suggestions. Whether the medical profession like it or not I think the era of the god like specialist who knows all is changing as patients become more and more pro-active participants in their own health care. A good thing.
I hope your insomnia eases up, I really did struggle with it last week which only added to the stress… and I reckon for me it was those damn Nitrodur patches as I haven’t been using them the last few days and have had no trouble since. I can’t wait to hear how your lovely juicy follies are travelling along. You will be in my thoughts tomorrow .
Hi Mrs P, yay for AF... and thanks for your kind thoughts.
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31-05-2013 10:07 #38
Hi Domiffy and Mrs P.........
Well, bit of a mixed bag after my appointment this morning with WDA. There's 7 folllicles on the go (4 on the right, 3 on the left) that are ranging between 13mm-20mm (something like 13,15,18,20........you get the picture) At first, I was disappointed with what I thought at the time was so few follicles (compared to my other cycles) and I had a bit of a crisis of confidence over it. But then when I put it into perspective and thought about it logically, I realised that I am another year older since we began our journey and this is what happens when women get older......our ovaries start running out..... Nevertheless, it could be worse, and I have 7 potential eggs to be collected on Tues it looks like ladies I'll be happy if all the eggs are mature at EPU (WDA was a bit iffy on the 13mm one) and they all fertilise.....My lining is currently at 9.6mm and WDA was happy with that.
I was meant to begin Luveris injections today but WDA has decided to disband with that idea feeling that the Menopur has enough LH in it anyhoo and I really don't need any more. He wants to see me again tomorrow for another scan and more bloods (mainly to check my P4 levels....he likes it at 6 or less and my old FS liked it at 4 or less....) and then its full steam ahead!!!! I'm to be triggered with 6500iu of Pregnyl (same as you Domiffy) so that will be interesting to see what happens there as I've always used 5000iu of Ovidrel in the past.
Other than that all good, except I had a mini meltdown when I got home (and I've been so good up until now too) and discovered either DP or myself had double bolted the door (I've only got the key for one door) and I was locked out. Rang DP (who's at work and can't easily get away) and had a hissy fit on the phone, then I dragged out the ladder from under the house and managed to jimmy open a window but the ladder was too short (and so was I...) and I couldn't quite reach the window so rang DP back and had another hissy fit about that, went next door to my lovely neighbours to ask for their help (was thinking the husband could climb through the window for me) and they opened their door to a weeping moi!!!! Thankfully, the wife knows I'm cycling and was laughing at my sobbing apologies whilst explaining that the drugs are doing my head in and sorry I'm a blubbering mess.....anyhoo, thank God, their ladder was taller than ours and before I knew it, I was in the window....crisis averted!!!! FFS!!!! How stupid and foolish do I feel now??? Dropping my bundle over that????
Domiffy girl, fantastic news about your emby's!!!! Day 3 and exactly where they should be development-wise....Keep on going little one's!!!!! Lighting the candle and saying a prayer to whomever is "up there" can't hurt either!!! Was a lovely gesture girl......am keeping my they've started compacting nicely today and are on their way to becomming 2 top-draw Blasty's for you and DP!!! Go you good things!!!!! You're in my thoughts too love....am waiting with baited breath for your update!!! Here....you're due another dose of .......
Mrs P.......Yeeha for AF turning up on time!!!! Always good when our bodies co-operate and play the game
Ok ladies that's it for me....Let you know how I get on with WDA after my appointment in the morn....Take care....... for you both
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31-05-2013 15:12 #39Member
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BinB… woo hoo on the 7 follies and lovely lining I know I’m always disappointed there aren’t just a few more but I’d take 7 well fed ones over dozen malnourished scraggly ones that don’t make it any day – in some ways I’d imagine that a big haul of eggs and low fert would be even a bigger disappointment because expectations are higher and you know what they say quality over quantity… just takes one good one as we all know.
I completely relate to your mini melt down today (yay for your lovely neighbours ) , hormones are running wild and there are so many expectations and there is such an emotional build up before that first scan – for me it has always been an accurate predictor of what I end up with so I feel like it’s D-day.
So it’s getting towards the business end for you with pick up next Tuesday - do you plan on a 3 day or 5 day transfer? BTW I didn’t use Luveris in my cycle either but then with my LH issues that is not surprising. Can't wait to hear your update tomorrow and am sending you a cargo ship of mature egg and 100% fertilisation dust your way to arrive at just the right time…. ie not too early and not too late.
Well AFM, as of this morning I have 1x morula and 1x9 cell slow poke so I am on track for transfer tomorrow. Eek. I know I should be more upbeat but thoughts are running wild that I’ll show up tomorrow and the little guys will have carked it o/night and there is nothing to transfer. But tis in the lap of the gods now. What will be will be.
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31-05-2013 17:28 #40
Yippee for your emby's girl!!!!! I know what you mean about the worry before transfer....I always worry that I'll get a ph call just before to tell us not to bother.....but love, I gotta good feeling your little one's are going to go the distance Hopefully by the time you get to transfer, the slow poke would have caught up (as you can see from my signature, I've had slow-poke issues too) and there'll be two amazing blasty's to pop into your oven!!! You got a morning or arvo transfer scheduled?? Yep, we'll be going for another 5 Day transfer at this stage and providing there are 2 available will do another DET as well...I'm just trying not assume/presume anything at this point....I always feel like I'll jinx myself if I do.....ridiculous I know!!!
Can only hope the 7 follies have viable eggs in them,but as you say, what will be will be....I was hoping for more follicles (as we all do) but am not surprised there are less. As you've rightly pointed out, its quality over quantity, it's just that quantity makes me feel a bit more secure once it comes time to growing them out to Blastocyst as our emby's in the past have always powered on beautifully until Day 3 then started to sh*# themselves from then until Day 5....It's a false sense of security I know!!! I admire you (and your DP's ) nerve having decided to grow yours out until Day 5 and it looks like it's paid off!!! Good for you both!!!
Yep, my scan's have been the same in the past too....so not expecting any extra's at EPU. Thanks for all your well wishes, encouragement and support...it means so much to me. I'll see your and raise it.... .......there you go girl!!!! Ok, be back tomorrow with an update....Good luck girlfriend!!!!! Will be thinking of you tomorrow with everything I possess Can't wait to hear how you went!!!
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