My FS is Dr Warren De Ambrosis who works with the Qld Fertility Group (QFG) here in Brisbane.....he does this protocol,which is what I've just done (am in the 2ww now). Unfortunately, I don't know of any FS in Sydney who do it as I live here in Brisbane, but I know QFG is a sister company to IVF Australia, so maybe you can check out my FS and IVF Australia online and see what you come up with. Failing that, maybe give my FS's office a call and see if he has a collegue or another FS he knows of that he could refer you to in Sydney that may be able to help you and your DP.
Good luck on your journey love...... to you for the future
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14-06-2013 09:51 #91
14-06-2013 10:24 #92Member
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Hey Blonde, thanks for you lovely words and encouragement - you cracked me up re ‘taking down’ the baby factory friend. I don’t envy her 4 under 5 either, bugger that. I don’t know if you get to really enjoy them when they are so close together as it all seems to be about the logistics of just getting through each day - nappy changes, feeds and making sure they aren’t trying to kill each other – ‘no Kai, don’t stomp on your baby brother’s head’ . She’s a good mum tho… endless patience and very supportive DH but yes just one bundle of joy for me would be enough at this stage…. Dare I hope for #2!
What a sh**e day you had yesterday, sounds like you are giving off some strong vibes that are messing with your electricals! Hope that you have a kindly mechanic and ‘The Heap’ is a cheap and easy fix . You poor thing…. trapped at home with no car during the TWW – Aaarrghh …. but baking sounds like a tasty and therapeutic distraction. Can’t believe you’re almost half way through TWW... And yes I do reckon those crazy symptoms could be implantation but understand not wanting to get your hopes up esp with the side effects trickery of support drugs… I also read somewhere online that Prednisone can mask pregnancy symptoms just to throw that into the mix as well.
Am sorry to hear insomnia has returned… same for me, no trouble getting to sleep but can’t seem to stay there. Grrrr. So glad I don’t have to rock up to for work at an external employer’s in a sleep deprived zombified state – just wander into home office and toddle off for a nap if/when I need to. I don’t know how people cope with the stress of a full-time work and attempting to maintain a veneer of sanity on the job during IVF cycles… but I guess we all just do what we have to given our circumstances. Blonde, as always my thoughts are with you and sending some for yesterday and a whole bunch more for today .... along with a few of these and some of these …..
Mrs P Massage sounds great – I have actually been looking for a good remedial masseuse in Cairns for DP’s back issues but have not had any recommendations so I’d be grateful for her details if you’re happy to pass them on.
Lazza Sorry I am really only familiar with Cairns based fs and Warren DA in Brisbane which is who I went to for my current cycle. Blonde’s advice is good – or there might be a Sydney thread that you could post on tho I don’t recall seeing any recent ones… Best of luck on the IVF train….
AFM Well the blood has been sucked from my veins and will have my results soon enough. I didn’t manage to get myself out the door to the gym tho so I am sitting here torturing myself waiting for the call. The phone rang a wee while ago…. Jumped out of my skin… with heart pounding…. not the call I was waiting for. I am reconciled to the fact that it will be BFN and have begun strategising for the next cycle… DP and I will be working on some super eggs/sperm over the next couple of months (list of supplements is growing….) after my poor ovary’s have had a chance to recover from the deluge of fsh this cycle. I am not interested in using such high doses of stims again… the more I have Googled, the less convinced I am that it is a good idea. It clearly works for some of WDAs patients but I do feel that it along with the wrong drug choice for me has affected the quality of my eggs. I haven’t quite gone so far as to book my next appointment with my old fs to discuss next cycle and debrief this one but that is the next step…. pending this arvo's call. Till then....
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14-06-2013 11:03 #93
Helloooo Domiffy Love......
Right!!!, Well, I'm here sweating it out with you for the BT results....... I read that too about Prednisone masking preggo symptoms......and the Pharmacist told me when I was getting my Ralovera script filled after EPU and whingeing about the DHEA giving me insomnia that it can make you a bit "hyper" as well.......Hmmmm.......
Can completely relate to the "jumping out of your skin/heart pounding" feeling......is frigging awful!!! Did they give you a guestimate when the results would be in??? Yes, I've also read (and been told) that high stims doesn't neccessarily correlate with better egg numbers or quality,but like you said earlier love, we've got to give these things a go if for no other reason that to rule them out. I can undertand why you feel the way you do about the drug choice/high stims love.....you know your body better than anyone but if things turn to sh$t today, you're definately on the right track with taking a break before your next cycle as I know that doing those 3 last year only a few months apart didn't help my eggs numbers one iota!!! It may be ok if you're younger to do quick succession cycles ('cause you've got more eggs to play with), but I don't advocate it for us older ladies.
Yep, is great you can work from home.....I do a combination of both myself and I totally agree that it would be so hard to work f/time doing IVF which is why I cut down my hours and took a sabbatical from my normal phlebotomy career to doing casual admin work. We took a hit $ wise, but is far better for my stress/sanity levels plus it's far more flexible days/hours wise which is a tremendous help with all the appointments/EPU/ET etc that a cycle entails.
Been baking white chocolate and macadamia biscuits this morning, cleaning the house and waiting for the mechanic to call......Still no word as yet on "The Heap". The longer he takes to get in touch, the more uneasy I start to feel (mind you, I knew yesterday when I spluttered my way into his workshop that he was flat out). I'll know soon enough!!! Was an awful day yesterday, glad it's over and so far today is a lot calmer (until I get the bill for "The Heap" that is!!!!) Am still having those dull, almost non-existent but "just there" pains in my right ovary area, even had one on my left side this morning, but I'm not getting my hopes up that it's anything other than side effects or Crinone constipation!!! Time will tell soon enough girl.
Thank-you so much for your unwavering support, kindness, thoughtfulness and all round genuine and sincere best wishes for me girl.......You are a truly beautiful soul and I couldn't appreciate it more especially today of all days for you to be able to still think of others when you're sitting there on tenterhooks yourself.......
Ok, am off for now......going to do a bit more housework and wait for "old mate" mechanic to call. Yep, hate this housebound caper. Hopefully "The Heap" and I will be reunited later today.....
STOP THE PRESS.........
Mechanic just called....."The Heap" is fixed......$150 damage, but it could of been a lot worse....am off to go pick it up now.......Back later.....Thinking of you Domiffy girl and still sending masses of your way and keeping everything for you!!!!!
P.s.....Been wondering (and this may be a stupid question but just keep in mind my username, especially the Blonde part...) but do you and DP have any frosties left??? Or maybe the fact you've just done a stim cycle speaks for itself??? I can be so vague at times love....so sorry if I'm stating the bleeding obvious.......
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14-06-2013 12:27 #94Member
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Hey Blonde... No news yet, just keeping myself BH busy… while cycling I would usually wait till around 2pm to call for BT results so will give it little longer before I start hassling them – kind of also assuming that they would ring straight away if they had good news….
Yes you are quite right, we have one 6 day blast in the fridge left over from December cycle but have been really hoping to put a few in the bank for future use, should I ever get to try for #2 down the track… hmmm talk about cart before the horse… Am the eternal optimist and am still hoping to hit that lucky jackpot of a stim cycle where I have a couple of good ones to pop back in the oven and a few for storage.
That is fabulous about your car and lordy me, who ever heard of a mechanic charging $150 for anything! Your lucky day I’d say. Well I had to google Phlebotomy as I was clueless as to what that was. What an interesting career choice – are you missing the work (not the hours or stress part)?… It has taken me until this cycle to get over my needle phobia – DP has had to do all my injections up to that point but when DP went back to Cairns while I was in Brissy I had no choice re the clexane. Feel like an old pro now and much more empowering to be able to do it myself (actually during this cycle I wanted to dial down the stims dose but DP wouldn’t let me – now I can do as I please…. I’m a last born rule breaker)…
Thank-you right back for all your support and encouragement – it has been very mutual...
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14-06-2013 12:48 #95
Hope you don't mind me posting here but I see that you had 3 embryos put back this cycle. Was Wazza ok with this? I thought you had to be 40 to be allowed a tripple transfer. I have been wanting to have this done myself as we always have a couple of embryos after the double transfer that aren't quite good enough for freezing but are still growing. I hate the thought that they are just discarded. Even with my history of 17 failed cycles I still couldn't get my last FS to do tripple transfer. He told us that he would be breaching ethics and would be investigated by the ART board if he did, so was just interested to hear your story. Good on you I say, if I had my way I would have them all put back.
Good luck to all the other ladies on this thread. Fingers crossed this thread will be full of BFP news soon
14-06-2013 13:02 #96Member
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Hi ladies.... Surprise surprise its a BFN... HCG of 3. No tears yet but will go away and lick my wounds and update my signature now.
14-06-2013 14:16 #97
Oh, FFS!!!! Was definately not the result I was wanting to hear from you!!! Is just so frigging unfair!!! I'm so very, very sorry for both you and your DP and I know my words are futile and will do nothing to ease you and your DP's disappointment and hurt...... but know that I'm sending you and your DP so much "healing of broken heart's" vibes and many, many (why can't there be a cuddle icon with a sad, blubbering face that's more appropriate for these "I've just been kicked in the guts yet again" times like this???)
Christ, if I wasn't in the 2ww I'd be off down the Bottle Shop buying myself a bottle of vino to commiserate with you and your DP (don't even know if either of you drink, I rarely do but today's sh$t results make me feel like hitting it in solidarity with you).......Anyhoo love, if you do have a tipple every now and again, I suggest that this arvo/tonight is the time to have a drink, a vent, a cry and just get it all out of your system.....Wallow away love for as long as you need
Ok, am going to STFU now but know that I'm here for you anytime....feel free to PM me if you want to keep things off the thread for a while ok love??? Once again, am sorry this cycle wasn't a winner for you and your DP, but I can tell you're a gutsy girl with a fighting spirit who'll get back up again and rise like the Phoenix from the Flames to fight again for your dream!!!!! When you're ready.......you go girl!!!! I'll be waiting and watching
Please let me know if there's anything I can do.......
14-06-2013 14:28 #98
Of course I don't mind if you post on this thread. That's why I started it for ladies like us who are doing this particular protocol so we could share our experiences. Anytime you want to post, feel free ok??
Now, as to your question about having the triple transfer, it was actually WDA who said considering my age (40 in 3 months) and the fact we'd had the 3 failed cycles previously, that he'd be happy to transfer 3 if that's what we wanted. As it turned out, 3 was all we had, so in they went and yes, I agree with you regarding the excess embryo's that weren't good enough to freeze.
I had excess embryo's myself (7 on Cycle 1 and 3 or 4 on Cycle 2) and if I could of, I would of had an extra one put in too especially on Cycle 2. I know how you feel about the thought of them just being discarded. It seemed like so many lost opportunities to me when it happened on my 2 previous cycles. It made me feel sad at the time as well to think that I'd lost all those possible chances.
I don't know what the go was with your last FS being reluctant to do a triple transfer in light of your circumstances......but I know that sometimes FS are made to sign some kind of legal document probably absolving the Fertility Company they work for of any responsibility (if things go wrong or there's multiple births etc) should they go outside of the company's policies or procedure's.....but it can be done, I do know that.
Have a talk to the man love and see what he says......am pretty confident he'll be on board with it....... Let me know how you get on.......Good luck love!!!!
14-06-2013 20:04 #99
Hi Dommy, - I am so sorry hon. I'm here crying along with you and Blondie. I wish we could know why. What happened, or didn't happen? When, and why did these lovely, dividing little embies, stop? . It's not fair that so much desire and effort is discarded by the fertility gods.
I know you are getting back on the horse when you feel well again. So I'm starting now with the .
Hi BinB, - I'm glad you got your car fixed for a relatively small price. I truly hope your symptoms were implantation. We need a bfp from you (sorry no pressure). Oh, and just reading about your white chocolate, macadamia nut cookies was making my mouth water. I haven't eaten sugar for 2.5 months, and today I seem to be missing it. Mmmm cookies!
Hi to Hope and Lazza
14-06-2013 21:27 #100
Dom, - Just sent you a PM re masseure.
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