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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderella82 View Post
    I think you're right, and people would rather not know what actually happens to a viable baby that is terminated late term because it is too distressing to hear the truth. I find it sad that we a a society would support something we have little or no knowledge of - how can you be pro choice for a late term abortion if you have no idea of how that abortion actually occurs? Some people have no idea How the babies life is terminated when induced labour would mean that they would survive and it would be an unsuccessful abortion, so the dr needs to take measures to ensure that a healthy baby is no longer so. Google abortion procedures, even google image it, and then come back and say that you are 100% pro choice.
    Actually, don't because its horrifying.

    Seeing those pictures and hearing these procedures is what ultimately changed my mind from being totally pro choice to being whatever I am now.

    But seriously, this is a tangent of this argument that is guaranteed to not have a happy ending, because no matter what your stance, it's a distressing thing to see and read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderella82 View Post
    the babies life is terminated before it is able to take a breath, either with partial birth, lethal cardic injection when the baby ids in utero, before labour has begun, or with a D & E (which I won't describe not to cause offence but it is awful to imagine it happening to a viable baby). Again we prefer to be ignorant to what actually goes on - but the only way for a healthy viable baby to be aborted is for its life to be artificially terminated by the doctor (as I already explained earlier).
    Sorry, but you are just talking rubbish.

    When I had my termination, baby was born alive. I was induced with tablets inserted into my cervix, that's it. None of this injection etc. that you speak of!

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    Yes, it is very very distressing. But I don't think you can support a choice to do those things to a baby if you have no idea what is actually done & how the baby is actually terminated. How a d & e (or 'intact' d & e) is performed on a baby, for example. It is so so sad & a great tragedy. I tend to think that staunch pro choices really must be just ignorant to what actually happens - surely no one could support it if they knew te truth? Surely not!
    I i follow the dr Seuss 'Horton hears a who' school of thought when it comes to termination - 'a persons a person, no matter how small'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderella82 View Post
    Yes, it is very very distressing. But I don't think you can support a choice to do those things to a baby if you have no idea what is actually done & how the baby is actually terminated. How a d & e (or 'intact' d & e) is performed on a baby, for example. It is so so sad & a great tragedy. I tend to think that staunch pro choices really must be just ignorant to what actually happens - surely no one could support it if they knew te truth? Surely not!
    I i follow the dr Seuss 'Horton hears a who' school of thought when it comes to termination - 'a persons a person, no matter how small'
    Well I don't know about anybody else, but you have to be stupid to not know what happens in any abortion. A fetus dies. I think that's pretty clear, pretty sure people who have terminated know that as well.

    I'm still pro choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Sorry, but you are just talking rubbish.

    When I had my termination, baby was born alive. I was induced with tablets inserted into my cervix, that's it. None of this injection etc. that you speak of!
    I'm sorry, but I think you said before that your baby was not viable & that the termination was medically necessary? So your baby passed on its own? (Again, I'm sorry).
    If it were a healthy & viable late term baby then if the dr were just to induce labour, the baby would likely sùrvive labour as any other healthy baby would. So the baby has a lethal cardic injection or d & e or intact d & e (or partial birth) to ensure that it does not survive. It needs to have its life artificially terminated, otherwise it would be an unsuccessful abortion. I'm not talking rubbish, I think that some pro choices would rather not believe that these things actually do happen, an that is the choice that they are supporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Well I don't know about anybody else, but you have to be stupid to not know what happens in any abortion. A fetus dies. I think that's pretty clear, pretty sure people who have terminated know that as well.

    I'm still pro choice.
    How does it die?

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    Oh gosh I wish I knew how to unsubscribe, im finding this extremely distressing to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderella82 View Post
    How does it die?
    Why does that matter?

    Most women having an abortion find the decision difficult enough as it is. They know essentially what they're doing, do you purposely want to make it harder for them if they happen to be ignorant about the procedure.

    Most people after 12/14 weeks would have the procedure explained to them. I did. It was made very clear and I was able to ask a lot of questions about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderella82 View Post
    'a persons a person, no matter how small'
    And as Sassy pointed out A woman loses rights as soon as a fetus gains some.

    At the end of the day no matter how awful the vision is of how the procedures are preformed, A womans rights should never be taken away - even if she is pregant.

    You can go on about the procedure all you like, it doesn't convince me that a woman shouldn't have a right to choose what happens to her own body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutmonkey View Post
    Oh gosh I wish I knew how to unsubscribe, im finding this extremely distressing to read.

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