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    Wow, thanks for posting that Vanity. I don't think he should be punished for it, there are many people on here who consider themselves pro choice and can't agree with gender terminations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    But what about medical reason for the mother, what about a cancer diag where you have to start chemo/radi asap or the mother dies?

    There was a case in Australia a few years ago, where the mother chose to continue with the pregnancy and forgo treatment, that was her choice to make, it is her body. Personally I felt really off about it, she left behind four young children and I don't think that is fair to them at all. But at the end of the day, it is her choice to make, she made the choice that she felt was right. And even though it really felt wrong to me, I am glad she was able to make her own choices.

    I guess I just will never trust policy makers on where they draw the line, what I consider a good enough medical reason, someone else may not.
    We all say we would risk our lives to save the life of our child, so I guess for people who believe life begins at conception, this scenario is an extension of this. I agree it is very sad for the other children in the family but I dn't feel comfortable questioning her decision TBH.

    I think the Catholic stance on it is that if you underwent treatment and the baby died, it is not wrong, as you are not trying to actively end the life of the fetus. Rather it is a sad, but foreseen consequence of actions that are necessary to save the mother's life.

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    Why doesn't Aus offer gender selection to those that want it anyway, I'm sure only a minority would be prepared to do it, why is it illegal here?

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    Why is ok to question a mothers choice to terminate, but not ok to question a mothers choice to not terminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Annabella View Post
    We all say we would risk our lives to save the life of our child, so I guess for people who believe life begins at conception, this scenario is an extension of this. I agree it is very sad for the other children in the family but I dn't feel comfortable questioning her decision TBH.

    I think the Catholic stance on it is that if you underwent treatment and the baby died, it is not wrong, as you are not trying to actively end the life of the fetus. Rather it is a sad, but foreseen consequence of actions that are necessary to save the mother's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokeybear View Post
    Why doesn't Aus offer gender selection to those that want it anyway, I'm sure only a minority would be prepared to do it, why is it illegal here?
    I believe because it is deemed to be unethical and that it could lead to a very slippery slope - where do you draw the line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Why is ok to question a mothers choice to terminate, but not ok to question a mothers choice to not terminate?
    I didn't say its not okay, just that I feel uncomfortable doing so. Clearly it is okay to question a woman's choice to terminate, as there is 17 pages of it right here.

    I'm just trying to offer another perspective as to why a woman would choose not to in those circumstances.

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    No matter what way you look at it, anyone who would do this is a friggen disgraceful excuse for a human being. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutmonkey View Post
    I believe because it is deemed to be unethical and that it could lead to a very slippery slope - where do you draw the line?

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    That would be a really interesting thread because giving it a quick 5 minute thought it seems a better solution than what some are opting to do.

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    That's a good point about gender selection being illegal over here, I wonder why that is? Surely there are worse outcomes (i.e what's happening in this scenario). If it could be avoided by being able to select the gender of your child on conception, than i think it would be far better than performing a late term abortion on a perfectly healthy baby because of it being an undesired gender. I think this should open discussion about making it available in Australia and providing that service to intended parents. I have thought about gender selection and gender swaying after having 3 sons, i'd love a daughter, but it's not an option I have in Aus.

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    Long term also, sorry if I'm repeating I haven't read every single post - but unless there's an underlying medical /genetic reason to have a preference for a girl or boy, if it's a matter of there's a perceived life with a particular gender they want, like I'll totally emphasise with gender disappointment. I actively Ttc knowing I'd be heartbroken if I didn't have a girl. Not that having a boy was the issue it was the thought of *never* having a girl.

    But so what if they go on to have a boy - and he's not everything the wanted a BOY to be. They want a boy so intensely they'd abort a daughter on the basis of her gender..... What if their boy isn't into sports and trucks or whatever it may be that they see a boy will fulfil for them.

    What then?

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