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05-04-2013 22:17 #61
05-04-2013 22:28 #62
If people weren't willing to pay for ivory, then nobody would be killing animals to make profit. It doesn't matter if it's an antique or not - you're showing the poachers that ivory is valuable, and that's just something I could never ever agree with or support.
It's one of the most sickening things a person could own, because there are PLENTY of alternatives that look similar but haven't contributed to the near extinction of animals.
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05-04-2013 22:42 #63
I definitely feel more comfortable with both meat consumption and leather if I think that the whole animal is being used. As I read that link to the government paper on the leather industry, because of low cost imports, and possibly our over consumption of meat, there is a lot of hide that can't be used because of the high cost of leather production. This is sad to me.
Snakeskin to me seems like a more *luxury* item on account of them being a smaller animal. A cow hide makes far more shoes than a snake. If snakes are to be used for their skins, I would hope that the snake had been used for its venom, but even then it still seems terribly unnecessary. Likewise, I would hope that croc leather would be a by product of the crocodile meat industry. As with all animal manufacture, I would like to see that farmed animals, cows, crocs, sheep, chickens, fish etc can have something that approximates a quality life whilst they are alive, and a good death too.
05-04-2013 22:47 #64
Back to topic - I would be really interested to know the environmental impact of one pair of leather shoes compared to one pair of vinyl/synthetic shoes. I know that mass production of beef cattle causes huge problems with emissions etc, and tanning would also use a lot of chemicals/power/water etc, but synthetics are derived from petrochemicals and I can only assume that production of these materials would have an enormous footprint.
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06-04-2013 07:06 #65
06-04-2013 07:10 #66
I luckily enough havnt encountered a snake up close and perosnal but DH has several times whilst working especially when he was working out warrick and kingaroy ways. Snake met shovel and shovel relocated parts of the said snake as DH liked to say
06-04-2013 08:13 #67Senior Member
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If I thought I could safely move the snake without risking serious injury, I would have. Unfortunately snake wrangling is not one of my many varied skills. I live remotely, there is no local snake handler to call on. But it was in my house, and leaving it there was not an option. It was a black snake, so not the nastiest kind, but a bite to a child or pet could prove fatal.
I don't kill snakes for fun, when I see them in the paddock I give them room to move on, when I come across them on the road I swerve around them.
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06-04-2013 09:02 #68
Bugsy, if you see them that often, you have just confirmed I'll never apply for 'Farmer Wants A Wife'.
I'd like to hope I had the courage to kill one if it was in my home, not run away screaming like a little girl. Good for you.
06-04-2013 11:15 #69
I found this article talking about the impact of leather vs synthetic. Whilst it didn't give a solid answer either way, but I did like the point about *junk food*/*twinkie* fashions. Just another reason to aspire to a classic look. Slightly off topic, but anyway...
06-04-2013 11:32 #70
Ignorance is bliss....
Unless you are the tortured animal being used for human consumption...
Torture, pain and suffering is real and happens whether you choose to see it or not.
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