We just had our 20week scan and bub is healthy except for a slight brain issue, I have no details yet as it was late yesterday, ( we are talking to our OB today). It means we are prepared
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04-04-2013 10:02 #11
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04-04-2013 10:04 #12Senior Member
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The ultrasound performed during pregnancy do not just scan the baby. They also check the mothers internal organs - ovaries, tubes, outer uterus, bladder etc. This is important to ensure that several other conditions are not present. I've seen more than a few cases where tumours and molar pregnancies have been picked up and the mother was able to get appropriate care without endangering her or her baby's life. Many conditions can also be fixed prior to birth (amniotic bands is one of these) where previously it would have meant amputation of a limb or worse when the baby was born. It is not always about finding something wrong, but in preparing yourself for how to deal with any issues post delivery.
I am happy that you have made a decision that you are happy with but maybe you need to look into it a little closer as well to ensure that you have the whole story.
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I haven't read all these posts because I'm kind of fuming and you really hit a nerve with me.
If this is your opinion, that's fine, we all make decisions based on our beliefs, knowledge and what we feel is best. But you almost demonize having scans and also people who make the incredibly AWFUL decision to terminate because of defects, syndromes, etc. you are obviously very uneducated on what happens when they find abnormalities. They don't advice you to terminate based on a 'blurry' scan. They do several scans, many in-depth, further testing (like amnios) and parents meet with several specialists like geneticists, infectious disease physicians, etc. The decision to terminate a sick baby is not made lightly nor in an uninformed manor!
Our baby died in-utero, I thank God every day that if something was wrong (our autopsy came up inconclusive and we met with several specialists), but if something was wrong and she was going to die no matter what, at least we weren't faced with the decision to terminate. Through my journey I've met many mothers who have had to make this decision and it is awful, they're babies were not going to live and it's wrong for you to assume otherwise.
I went public so only had a 12 week scan and was about to have my 20. It kills me that we didn't have more scans. Didn't have her looked at more often and in-depth. Our next pregnancy I will be going private with an OB that will scan me at every appt because I will need to know as often as possible that my baby is alive. It's awful that you insinuate we are putting our babies in danger.
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04-04-2013 10:07 #14
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04-04-2013 10:08 #15
I had 7 scans (possibly 8, can't quite remember).
On two scans I had bleeds internally, on one after early labour. I had a number of issues and the scans were used to ensure both dd and I were healthy and okay.
DD is perfectly healthy and a bright, happy 19 month old.
Although I didn't want that many scans. I wasn't going to argue the scans because they were for valid reasons that could of ended badly had they not been done.
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04-04-2013 10:09 #16
I've read am article on the tissue damage / heat of the ultra sounds or what ever. It's on a another parenting forum, I think he does have a little merit for sure bit I could only find one article and Im not pregnant ao stopped looking into it.
Like most things you have to way up what is right for you and what has the least risks.
For all the other things in your post will leave them to you..
I'm going to see if I can get that study or article about the ultrasound. I think it's the one you would have read.
Eta) All good missie-Mack Found it
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04-04-2013 10:15 #17
The benefits of ultrasound definitely outweigh any risks. My daughters life was saved due to picking up a defect on ultrasound at 13 weeks. She was monitored and induced early because if she was left to go to full term she most likely would have died in utero. So I think your claims are unsubstantiated and foolish.
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04-04-2013 11:10 #18
Two midwives could not confirm the position of my baby at 38 weeks. There was a possibility that she was transverse and I may well have been facing an unwanted c-sect after months of gearing up for a natural, intervention free birth. A quick US confirmed that DD was fully engaged and a few weeks later I had a wonderful intervention free birth.
I can understand not having a dating scan (I didn't have one for either pregnancies) but the benefits of having an US at some point in the pregnancy can at best mean the difference between life and death for both mother and baby.
ETA: My DD had 3 USs on her abdomen at about 14 months that detected 2 interceceptions (telescoping of the intestines). She had none of the usual symptoms. Interceceptions can be life threatening and may require emergency surgery. The second and third USs showed they had fixed themselves thus she avoided emergency surgery.
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04-04-2013 11:10 #19
I told myself I wouldn't reply, but me being me I can't help myself.
I found a lot of what you said quite offensive and lacking in understanding OP. The vast majority of women that have repeat scans beyond the dating and morph scan do so for medical reasons, often that the first or second scan detected. Issues such as recurrent m/c, ongoing bleeding, ectopic pregnancy, fetal abnormalities are some of reasons. Without my scan I may well have died and in the very least lost a tube. That's not being dramatic, that's the truth. You comment that non viable pgs just m/c simply isn't true. A vast majority of ectopics do not resolve themselves, mine didn't. Missed m/c is where the baby dies but the body doesn't abort. Some have to abort or have a D&C.
I don't know anyone that has had a heap of scans for no reason but to see the baby. I know a few that had 1 extra 4D scan for pictures, so they had 3 the whole pg. But not to the point of harming the baby.
As to you saying if there was an abnormality you wouldn't abort... so? nor would I. So don't abort, and if you don't want to have u/s don't have them. But you are basically saying u/s can lead to termination and therefore that's bad. That isn't your call. Please don't use the M word. It's emotive and many find it offensive.
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If you feel a scan isn't for you, that's fine, like I said above we all do what is best for us. But this is a very uneducated post for SO many reasons. People don't terminate based on 'blurry old scan' and scans look for so much more then OP seems to realize. You do not know what is going on inside you, if its fixable, if your baby wouldn't survive a natural birth but would a c-section. Babies do not just die or have something wrong because of chromosomal abnormalities (that fix themselves by miscarrying- like OP insensitively suggests, my daughter's chromosomes were all normal, why did she die?), they die from viruses the mother contracts, from blood clots in the placenta, amniotic banding, and so many more issues. All of which scans (especially at 20 weeks) can pick up on and determine if something can or needs to be done to save the baby. My desire for scans is based on my fear of my baby dying again and needing reassurance that baby is ok, maybe when I'm pregnant again I'll mellow out and feel frequent ones are not necessary but there is no way I'll turn down my 12 or 20 week scan and it has nothing to do with thinking I'll terminate if something is wrong or wanting to know the sex it has to do with wanting to make sure I give both of us the best chance at life.
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