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    Quote Originally Posted by Chew the Mintie View Post
    Nobody really has any claim, it's just whoever can take it by force.
    Agreed.

    * Aegon The Conqueror took the seven kingdoms because he and his two sisters had dragons to scare everyone.
    * Robert Baratheon took it by killing all the Targaryens (or so he hoped)
    * Cerci took it by sleeping with her brother leaving no Baratheon offspring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chew the Mintie View Post
    Good point re slavery is banned little crow.

    But re being in debt - doesn't blonde girl
    Only have money from the trinkets she found in black double crossers palace?
    Er... It appears that way in the tv series, yes. But that is to glaze over a massive amount of other stuff that happens in the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chew the Mintie View Post
    Good point re slavery is banned little crow.

    But re being in debt - doesn't blonde girl
    Only have money from the trinkets she found in black double crossers palace?
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Crow View Post
    Er... It appears that way in the tv series, yes. But that is to glaze over a massive amount of other stuff that happens in the book.
    Are we talking about the same blonde? Queen Cersi (old blonde b1tch) and the crown are in debt. Daenerys Targareyn (young blonde khaleesi (horse-queen)) is just poor because her brother and mother fled Westeros before she was born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikkiB View Post
    Are we talking about the same blonde? Queen Cersi (old blonde b1tch) and the crown are in debt. Daenerys Targareyn (young blonde khaleesi (horse-queen)) is just poor because her brother and mother fled Westeros before she was born.
    Chew the mintie was refering to Daenerys(horse queen) - she [according to the tv series] paid for her slave army by looting the home of Xaro Xhoan Daxos (black double crosser)

    But yes Cerci & the crown are in debt, therefore Joffrey couldnt afford to buy a slave army (even if it was legal in Westeros, which its not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Crow View Post

    But yes Cerci & the crown are in debt, therefore Joffrey couldnt afford to buy a slave army (even if it was legal in Westeros, which its not).
    But isnt the crown in debt to Tywin Lannister? So technically Cerci isnt in debt cos its her family paying for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by London View Post
    But isnt the crown in debt to Tywin Lannister? So technically Cerci isnt in debt cos its her family paying for it?
    Only a small part of the debt is to Tywin. The much greater portion of debt is owed to the Bank of Braavos, and also to The Faith.

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    The crown is in debt to Tywin Lannister, but also to the Bank of Braavos.

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    Ohh cool, thanks I miss sooo much and Ive watched it that many times over. Didnt realise till like the 4th time re-watching it that the Commander was Jorahs dad DP picks up everything but I really dont.

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    After watching the first season, my DH read the book and told me i should too. There is sooo much more to the story!!!
    A lot of stuff isnt directly addressed in the tv show but rather just subtly hinted at.

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    I did read the first book and maybe some if the second, but I just found it too hard going with the brutality etc. I think as a tv series I'm not as emotionally engaged or less confronted somehow.

    Another thing that put me off was the red lady, also puts me off the series. The religion \ mysticism type stuff.

    I still can't stop thinking about the 8000 babies killed by the slave army!


 

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