I do feel for Julia Gillard - she has had a pretty hard time of it this time around.
She made the "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead" speech ... but that ended up biting her on the a** big time when the Greens had the balance of power - she had to do a deal with them which included a carbon tax.
But instead of saying 'that was the price of their support' - which people might have respected, she didnt. She tried to spin it ... badly.
Then the immigration thing - they have managed the issue very, VERY badly, and it has made life tough. (not debating the merits of the policies here, just how they have been handled). Labor tried with the malaysia solution and lots of other things that they came out in public with before shoring up any kind of numbers.
Its just bad management that they could not get something that they knew the independents would agree too. Whatever it was.
The mining tax - again very badly handled by the government ...
All these things are policy-on-the-run stuff where they had to mess with their ideals and compromise so much to get it through that it ends up being a complete disaster.
I am not saying the Liberals would have done any better.
A minority government is HARD and I think whoever won last time around was the biggest loser ... in that they were always going to have a crappy time in office and then a long spell in opposition as punishment.
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Advantages of the Preferential System
1. It ensures that only a candidate with the support of an absolute majority of the electorate can win, eliminating the possibility of minority winners. Put another way, the winning candidate is the “most preferred” or “least disliked” candidate.
2. It ensures that voters can support minor parties and independent candidates, knowing that their preferences may be used to decide the winner. Thus, votes for minor parties and independents are not wasted.
3. It allows parties of like-minded philosophies or policies to “exchange preferences” in order to assist each other to win.
4. It promotes a strong two-party system, ensuring stability in the parliamentary process.
Disadvantages of the Preferential System
1. It is more complicated to administer and count.
2. It can produce a higher level of informal voting.
3. It promotes a two-party system to the detriment of minor parties and independents.
4. Voters are forced to express a preference for candidates they may not wish to support in any way. (The use of optional preferential voting, as used in New South Wales and Queensland State elections, is a solution to this problem.)
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22-03-2013 14:45 #176
Given more time I suspect he would have had the numbers. I believe there were a few that were behind Rudd, but understandably didn't want to show their cards before they knew he def had the majority. With the ultra fast calling of the spill, they weren't willing to commit to Rudd, and lose their jobs on a maybe.
So yes, very good maneuvering on Gillards behalf.
22-03-2013 14:51 #177Senior Member
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Why anyone would want to be in politics, especially PM is beyond me. It sounds like a backstabbing nightmare.
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22-03-2013 15:54 #180Senior Member
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Yes props to Gillard for calling the spill so soon.
I read something this morning that suggested SHE was the one who told Crean to call a spill. Which is certainly a different spin on the whole debacle.
Bowen, Ferguson and Carr gone today - who else? I haven't read the news for a while.
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