Do you really find it amazing? Perhaps If you toned down your arguments and weren't so dogmatic people would be more willing to engage in an open discussion with you. You don't want to know about the effects of climate change, I'm sure if I begin to explain you'll run straight to google to find me some "evidence" or a table of stats to refute it. Hence I would be wasting my breath.
Qualifications determine how facts are interpreted. They also give the ability to weed out real "facts". Everyone these days has a phd from Google though so everyone sitting behind a screen is pretty much an expert. The people ( like Tim Flannery) who devote their lives from teenagers to the research and study of the natural world, have numerous peer reviewed papers and books published, well they are just hacks.
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06-04-2013 23:01 #284Feel my wrath!
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I really wish I could be bothered enough with your lack of argument to research specifics further. This states that the avg temp has increased by .8 degrees since the 1950s. .8 degrees is a massive change for some species. Species that have adapted to very specific conditions your increase of .15 degrees in a decade is enough.
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07-04-2013 05:26 #286
As an environmental scientist I have been trying not to open this thread as I know it will raise my blood level.
As previous environmental manager of a nuclear power station in the uk I'm neither for or against nuclear power.
You can't do what we have done to this planet and expect it to balance out. Cause and effect, with the amount of deforestation and population growth etc the accounts just don't add up anymore.
07-04-2013 12:07 #287
When I did my post grad degree I did a whole subject on research methods. Yes a whole semester learning how to research. According to Father this was obviously a complete waste of time, as I already knew how to read and google.
Most reputable unis will have research methodology subjects. This is because there is a lot more to research then most people realise. In these subjects you don't look at the subject matter of your degree, just the methods of researching the subject matter.
Father, it is a very legitimate question to find out what qualifications you have, so we can understand how robust your research methods are and how much weight we should give them.
There is also the question of content of your qualifications/experience. Even though both my degrees are in the environmental field, I do not feel qualified or experienced enough to enter most of this debate. I am well aware of the ramifications of operating outside my field (I'm not really keen on being sued or being struck off my professional register).
I wonder how many environmental impact assessments or environmental management plans you have been involved with Father? Over my 15 year career I have undertaken many and I can say that your comments regarding the environmental impact of wind farms versus coal mines are complete rubbish. Yes on occasion a few individual birds may die in wind turbines (but this is actually quite rare), however this is nothing in comparison to the impacts on entire species (both flora and fauna) and ecosystems that occur with many coal mines. Your lack of knowledge on this one issue alone is enough for me to discredit everything else you say.
Also I note that you only responded to one of my scenarios in my previous post. The one you clearly believe to be true (no climate change but we have acted anyway). What is your response to the potential risk that there is climate change and we have done nothing? A standard risk assessment using the likelihood and consequence of the event (very common in many industries) will come up with this scenario as requiring a risk mitigation measure. We cannot ignore that there is a risk that this could occur.
1. Your qualifications/experience go to the heart of your credibility on this issue. Until you tell us what these are you are doing more harm to your argument than you appear to realise.
2. What is your response to a standard risk assessment being applied to this situation. What if you are wrong and we have done nothing?
07-04-2013 13:52 #288Senior Member
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Can't believe anyone would even need to ask that question. Did you have your tv turned off for the whole of 2011?
But thank you, you have just proven, with that one question, that there is no point in further debating with you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but this has just shown that you on a completely different wave length than the rest of us, and there is just no way you are going to take on board science or fact.
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07-04-2013 20:51 #290Senior Member
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To answer to your 3 questions.
- None. I don't think I have to understand the science behind global warming. I think you are getting cause and effect confused.
- The money saved by waiting can be used an adaption.
- The money saved by waiting can be used for adaption.
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