Lambjam is correct by her definition. I work in my local hospital surgical department and we class cesarians under elective or emergency.
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01-03-2013 14:32 #11
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01-03-2013 14:32 #12Senior Member
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If a woman has a caesarian after attempting to give birth naturally, it hardly seems 'elective' to me. She didn't elect it. I would think emergency or unplanned would be the correct terms.
01-03-2013 14:33 #13
It's your opinion, the definition I've been told is different and your unsupported opinion hasn't changed my view. So in my opinion, it's still a mistake. There's nothing hard about that.
01-03-2013 14:36 #14
GM01, what exactly is it about these terms that is upsetting you? Why do you care?
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01-03-2013 14:40 #15-
*An unplanned Caesarean section is performed once labour has commenced due to unexpected labor complications.
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*A crash/emergent/emergency Caesarean section is performed in an obstetric emergency, where complications of pregnancy onset suddenly during the process of labour, and swift action is required to prevent the deaths of mother, child(ren) or both."
In my opinion its all the same, because there's not another choice, is there? The baby has to come out, as soon as possible, in either situation. 'Unexpected' and 'Sudden' both read the same to me.
01-03-2013 14:40 #16
I feel like the term emergency cs is trivialised by over use, and when I say to someone I had an emergency cs they immediately think unplanned and I must have still had an epidural or spinal or something.
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01-03-2013 14:41 #17
I had an "unplanned" c section. My life wasn't in danger as far as I know but it certainly wasn't something I planned. On my hospital records it states "emergency c section" so that's what I call it. Sorry if that somehow offends you. I can't see why it would bother you to be honest. Seems like another "mother war" is brewing so I'm going to opt out of this thread.
01-03-2013 14:41 #18Senior Member
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Sorry to tell you this but hospitals have 2 types of cesaerians: elective and emergency. It is considered an emergency if the woman went through labour and couldn't for whatever reason get the baby out so ended up with a cesaerean. An elective is where it is planned beforehand and booked in. They will only do a cesaer if they think the life of the baby or the woman is at risk if they don't do one. Just because the life isn't in immediate danger doesn't mean that it wasn't an emergency. It's not like you go through labour and then go "Hey I've had enough give me a cesaer. LOL
01-03-2013 14:43 #19
There are a lot of terms in child birth that people don't like. I had an emergency caesarian (no it wasn't life threatening) first time after I "failed to progress". I hated that term - I didn't "fail", my body just won't allow me to birth naturally. There are lots of terms used medically people mightn't like - doesn't make them "wrong" though.
The Victorian gov't health website classifies caesarians as emergency (unplanned) and planned:
I've no idea which part of the Wiki explanation you assert makes a difference between unplanned and emergency, but I note in the listing none of these are offered as alternatives, just as explanations why women have them. I think you're reading a bit too much into one web page's way of setting out information.
Not even sure why this is a rant
01-03-2013 14:43 #20
Oh by all means challenge the terms. I think they're ridiculous!
But at this point they are the correct terms (that's not my opinion, that's fact)
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