Hi, we took out 3yr DD to a sleep specialist. Best thing we did - we put up with 2 loooong years of broken sleep - not good for DD or US!! It put a LOT of strain on our relationship because we were continually grumpy & in zombie mode. Please get help for the sleep issues asap - don't leave them for so long like us !
The sleep specialist booked us in for an overnight sleep study - they hooked DD up to all sorts of sensors - electrodes, Co2 etc - then DD slept in hospital while hooked up & they took the readings. The wonderful nurses made an adventure out of it and she watched her DVDs, then she slept in the hospital bed while I slept in a cot next to her - she was not upest at all (we still have her photos of it on the fridge!)
It turned out that DD's problem is that her slepe waves aren't "flowy" in a normal wave pattern - they are quite jumpy in a staggered way - she doesn't transition well between light sleep and deep sleep. To counter this DD Is prescribed a tiny dose of clomazepan (anti-seizure drug) that has a nifty side effect of helping sleep issues. THe dose is tiny, and we wean her off the drug every 6months to see how she goes naturally - sometimes it resets the sleep patterns, so far not for us though! The Dr said that some kids eventually grow out of it at approx 6-7 yrs.
Highly recommend getting assessed by a proper sleep specialist - there may be a medical reason for the sleep issues. Hope this helps !
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28-01-2013 18:54 #12
Sleep School/Sleep Specialist - Good? Bad? What's your experience?
28-01-2013 20:15 #13
We took DD to Tresillian at 3 months and it was great for us. Although their methods worked for us and 2 of the others in our ward that week, one poor mum & dad left quite dejected as their DD simply did not respond to anything they tried. So I definitely think its worth trying a sleep school but there is always a chance your child will be the exception.
I think the self confidence from having constant support for a week made a huge difference to me, and being able to connect to other mums who were experiencing the same troubles (I'm now friends with some if them)!
Also got tips from Tresillian over the phone since then when we went through some tough phases. One time after explaining our troubles they told me "that's just how things are at this age", glad I didn't give up and called Karitane a week later as they gave me some tips which resolved our sleep issues within 48 hours!
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21-02-2013 21:22 #14
Sleep School/Sleep Specialist - Good? Bad? What's your experience?
At Masada MBU right now! Nights are already greatly improved (sleeping through, around 11 hours), but unfortunately days are still a bit crappy (DDs a catnapper). I've been arguing with all the nurses that 15 month old DD will NOT be settled back to sleep no matter what we try but they are very adamant that if we keep trying the same thing every day, then one day she will just get it and do more than one (or half) sleep cycle in one go. Hmm... Will keep you posted!
22-02-2013 10:09 #15
I'm in the middle of doing some DIY sleep training with my 9mo. I actually got a referral letter from my GP for a hospital-run sleep clinic in case I needed it but I'm pretty sure DS's sleep problems are my fault... [think: BFing him back to sleep at night. He's a champion day sleeper, though - 1.5hr morning nap and another in the afternoon of 45mins-1.5hrs long.]
I have read so many books on the subject and am OK with the CIO approach (as in, letting him cry for a specified time before going in to soothe him - not just letting him bawl until he conks out) so TBH, I'm pretty sure I know what the sleep clinic staff would tell me to do: namely, break the feed-sleep association and stop relenting and giving him the breast whenever he wakes in the night (which I've been doing so his crying doesn't wake up the rest of the family - yet funnily enough, my 3yo never wakes up from his crying, no matter how loud he is). I just need to harden up and stick to the plan.
But despite all the books I've read, I've only just picked up a copy of Dr Richard Ferber's 'Solve your child's sleep problems'. Wow - talk about authoritative! As far as I'm concerned, he's the master - the original. And he's got the credentials to support his approach - not only is he an associate professor of neurology at Harvard Medical School, but he's the director of the Centre for Paediatric Sleep Disorders at the Children's Hospital in Boston. I mean, there is serious science behind his recommendations.
I think people get freaked out by the idea of 'Ferberisation' and there are a lot of misconceptions about it, but reading his book now, I'm learning that it's not as brutal as some might make out and is actually quite accommodating of parents who are wary of the CIO method. But that said, some parents just can't bear the though of letting their little one cry for any period and that's totally understandable. For me, though, I'm already finding his book very helpful and it's giving me the confidence to help try to break DS's sleep problems. I thoroughly recommend tracking down a copy and reading it - even if you don't like the idea of letting your baby cry, it'll still teach you a lot about infant sleep issues (just make sure you get the 2006 revised edition, not the original from the 1980s).
Anyway, good luck to everyone else out there who's trying to help their bubs sleep better - may we all soon rejoin the ranks of the living and not the walking dead!
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22-02-2013 12:11 #16
Re: Sleep School/Sleep Specialist - Good? Bad? What's your experience?
We went to tresillion hated it will never put us through anything like that again.
22-02-2013 13:43 #17
SeaShanty, thanks for the information. Wow I didnt know Ferber has such big credentials. I am not into CC or CIO but I did read that many people have really misunderstood Ferber's method. I myself havent delved into his method either but I know I wont be able to stand letting bub cry even if it is going in to comfort him at specified timings. I do the pat and sshh at his cot and even if he is crying, I make sure he knows I am right there with him by stroking his chest or head (That said, he is atm still not rolling yet so it is easy to do that!).
I hope you find success ridding the sleep associations your bub has and helping him to sleep better.
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