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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&Aurelia View Post
    Yes it's contrary to the ethos of the company. But there is no law saying you had to stick to your ethos/morals. It's not illegal to be immoral.
    I don't think anyone is suggesting them did anything illegal, however, they Catholic Church presents and markets itself as the embodiment of moral righteousness when they are anything but. The hypocrisy and callousness that they have shown in this incident should be taken as indicative of their true morals.

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    Default Catholic Hospital uses "not a life" as defense

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    I don't think anyone is suggesting them did anything illegal, however, they Catholic Church presents and markets itself as the embodiment of moral righteousness when they are anything but. The hypocrisy and callousness that they have shown in this incident should be taken as indicative of their true morals.
    To clarify, the Catholic Church hasn't done anything wrong/different here. A hospital has engaged a legal argument which goes against the Catholic Church's teachings. Church doctrine says those twins were real people for seven months before any of this tragedy happened.

    The hospital doesn't in any way speak for the Catholic Church.

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    Default Catholic Hospital uses "not a life" as defense

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    What about all the born children that die everyday? I love how the church is prolife until after birth.
    I'm not sure of a circumstance when the Catholic Church is not prolife after birth? Their bioethics stances are pretty consistent from what I've read?

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    Default Catholic Hospital uses "not a life" as defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfishie View Post
    I'm not sure of a circumstance when the Catholic Church is not prolife after birth? Their bioethics stances are pretty consistent from what I've read?
    I'm retracting this post and posting this instead because I finally found it..

    http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-11-05/...life-movement/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfishie View Post
    To clarify, the Catholic Church hasn't done anything wrong/different here. A hospital has engaged a legal argument which goes against the Catholic Church's teachings. Church doctrine says those twins were real people for seven months before any of this tragedy happened.

    The hospital doesn't in any way speak for the Catholic Church.
    The hospital was established as a Catholic hospital, thereby calling on the teachings of the Vatican to determine it's values, behaviours etc. In doing so it attached itself to the institution of the Catholic Church. I would regard any institution or organisation (school, hospital, care home, etc) that calls itself "Catholic" as part of the Catholic Church institution. This is just another incident of a religious organisation cherry picking the parts of their religious doctrine that suits them and ignoring the rest.

    I'd love to hear what the Vatican has to say about this incident.

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    Default Catholic Hospital uses "not a life" as defense

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    This is just another incident of a religious organisation cherry picking the parts of their religious doctrine that suits them and ignoring the rest.
    I totally agree, seems we can both see that this hospital has gone against church teaching. The hospital may have done something morally questionnaire, but we obviously both know they don't speak for the church.

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    Default Catholic Hospital uses "not a life" as defense

    Headoverfeet I don't want to leave your post unacknowledged, but I'm not sure I see the relevance to this thread. The article you posted does not mention the Catholic Church, in fact she states at the start that she was raised in an evangelical household (usually means Protestant?).
    The prolife movement attempts to empower women to make reproductive choices in a way which facilitates life, not through abortifacient methods. Am happy to have this discussion elsewhere, but I imagine that would take this thread quite off topic if we go into further detail here.
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    Default Catholic Hospital uses "not a life" as defense

    I agree it might I'm not fussed either way though if you want to continue it than I'm sure I'll stumble across it tomorrow, I'm off to bed right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfishie View Post
    I totally agree, seems we can both see that this hospital has gone against church teaching. The hospital may have done something morally questionnaire, but we obviously both know they don't speak for the church.
    Of course the hospital doesn't speak for the Vatican but they are both part of "the institution of the Catholic Church" and these actions are indicative of the moral corruptness of that institution.


 

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