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    Mumsical - yes it's quibbling but that's not what you said - you said overweight pregnant women are almost guaranteed to get GD.

    That's a far cry from 70% of morbidly obese women will get GD.

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    I actually said obese, anyway - i dont understand why you seem offended by my post? I am not directing it at you - just responding to the OP and quoting actual statistics. The OP mentioned she is over 100kgs which is definitely going to put her into the obese caregory - so i thought these statistics might motivate her to re-consider losing weight to improve her health and fertility. Even if she has a good body image already - its not just about that.

    People saying im fat and have 5 kids or i know someone who is morbidly obese and the didnt get GD does not change the statistics, it just means that luckily you're not one of them.

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    I'm offended, or at least, find objection to, what you said because its not true, and that kind of misinformation contributes to women feeling ashamed at doctors, etc.

    When people have inaccurate information, they can't make correct
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    For example, you said that obese women are far more likely to have c sections. In fact, the difference is not high and may be caused by other factors ie age or attitude of treating on. But when women read that kind of misinformation it causes them to doubt their ability to have a natural birth.

    It should be obvious to you that there is a huge difference between obese women are just about guarantees to get GD, and a study (that I haven't seen myself) finding that 70% of *morbidly* obese women get GD.

    I think if you can't concede the huge difference in implications of those statements then that's rather odd.

    The reality is that the majority of women being diagnosed with GD are not in fact overweight .

    I understand the point you are making and agree that it is very much optimal to be in a healthy weight range, but exaggerating the statistics just spreads fear and misinformation .

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    Lol lol was it all the typos?

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    Chew the mintie - you clearly missed the part where i said 70% of morbidly obese pregnant women had GDM by 20 weeks (tested early). This number went up again at 28 weeks and again at 32 weeks. So no, my comment that you can "pretty much guarantee it" is not unfounded.

    I have no idea where you get your figures from either. I in 4 women of reproduction age is obese in Aus and 2 out of 4 overweight.

    Overweight women are twice as likely as healthy weight women to develop GD. Obese women more than 3 times likely and morbidly obese were 6 times more likely. How you can say more slim people are diagnosed is baffling.

    Im not out to instill fear in women with statistics and give them a bad body image, yet too much hate is put on doctors who dare mention anything about weight loss to their patients. Australia is now the fattest country in the world! My husband comes home each day after seeing patient after patient who destroy their bodies with lifelong abuse of food, alcohol, cigarettes and laziness. Risk for everything increases with weight including cancers and maybe people should be more concerned about the health/risk factors rather than just body image and "accepting yourself the way you are".

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    I'm sorry but one study of less than 200 women does not a fact maketh! There's no point in using statistics if you are going to abuse them to make a point! You can at best say " in this study blah blah blah" it's simply bad science to suggest that you can use the stats in one small study to make sweeping generalisations about a whole population. Tsk tsk!
    Being in the medical field your husband should know that better than anybody!

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    Musical, you seem to be struggling with your empirical analyses.

    More slim women are diagnosed because there are far more slim women.

    I can't actually be bothered reading your entire post, to be blunt.

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    OP, you're right, four months is not very long considering your age, but I understand that it feels like forever!

    I don't have endo or PCOS, but I am way overweight. Hubby and I were ttc for 18 months before getting our bfp. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't lose weight but I lost only 3 kg and got pregnant that month.

    As for one of the PPs, I am shocked that you would quote a study of 190 women like it was gospel. 190 people is what shampoo companies use for statistics, not to be trusted.

    Good luck, OP, I hope you get your bfp soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelini View Post
    OP, you're right, four months is not very long considering your age, but I understand that it feels like forever!

    I don't have endo or PCOS, but I am way overweight. Hubby and I were ttc for 18 months before getting our bfp. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't lose weight but I lost only 3 kg and got pregnant that month.

    As for one of the PPs, I am shocked that you would quote a study of 190 women like it was gospel. 190 people is what shampoo companies use for statistics, not to be trusted.

    Good luck, OP, I hope you get your bfp soon!
    The rest of the stats were from different studies (one with 24,000 pregnant women). The only comment referring to the study on 190 women was the 70+% one.

    "Way more slim people"?? Where did you get that one from? Walking down the street? Even the self report census shows that more than half Aussie women reported themselves to be overweight or obese.... and how many of them would be lying/in denial? Lots.


 

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