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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbeci View Post
    That's why they get rent assistance too, to cover rent.

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    Rent assistance is only 140 a ftn, that's the highest you can get. Still doesn't cover, it helps but with rents so high in Australia, it's hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbeci View Post
    That's why they get rent assistance too, to cover rent.

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    yeah and WITH rent assistance I got a grand total of ... 460 dollars a fortnight ... could you HONESTLY live on 460 dollars a fortnight?
    I was lucky as rent was only 260 a fortnight, now I would be ****ed as rent alone would be 400 (minimum) electricity well say 40 that leaves a grand total of 20 dollars to eat with

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    Default Push to increase inadequate dole rejected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbeci View Post
    That's why they get rent assistance too, to cover rent.

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    Rent assistance does not "cover" rent. It assists with it. It's inaccurate to suggest that people are living rent free while receiving a looking for work payment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby star View Post
    uh yeah, you must know some really ****ty people,
    personally I dont know ANYONE who sits down and says hey I know I think I'll have a kid (that I must then RAISE for the next 18-25 years) JUST so I can get 1100 (generous here) a fortnight, score ladies and gentlemen I think I have found the money and a brilliant idea!

    My parents lived on welfare for times in their lives and I like to believe I am a good person, my son has had his mother live on welfare at times in his life and HE is a good person,

    He will be raised with a good work ethic but also that it is OKAY to ask for HELP when you NEED it and to have COMPASSION for those worse off than him.
    Yeah pretty much messed up if they think that way but yes I do know people like this, as do other son this board, heck there was even someone who knows a town where this is very common they have kids to survive.

    See this is where some people are getting it wrong I dont think anyone in this thread said it wasnt ok to ask for help when you need it. Or that welfare shoudl go away all together but I guess thats all some people see and want to argue on facts that are not true.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deserama View Post
    How do you know I was talking to you?

    BTW I'm talking about attitude, the attitude some have towards others who are worse off than them and bringing children up with the same compassionless attitude!

    If the boot fits - wear it! If not then don't!
    You were talking to everyone on this thread you dont like the views on dont try to say your not. You dont know that these people's kids wont have compassion or anything else. I know my kids do, I know the many years they went down with me to feed the homeless on thanksgiving and Christmas and had compassion for people. I am sure the kids of these people who think working is good will be fine. Not sure why some people here have to drag and attack family members but hey if its how you try to win arguments by bashing other peoples kids thats great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbeci View Post
    That's why they get rent assistance too, to cover rent.

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    lol. my rent is $375 a week. for a TINY 3 bedder. tell me how $140 a fortnight would cover that? lol

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    Default Push to increase inadequate dole rejected.

    1. The payment is disgusting and should be increased. I don't really care about the minority who take advantage- no system is perfect and every society is going to have a freeloader or two. Our concern should be with the majority of people receiving the payment whilst trying to do the right thing.

    2. Australia's rates of homelessness per capita are obscene. A god portion of homeless people are families (single and two parent) who hit hard times after job losses. When looking for work payments are so low, homelessness happens quickly and easily and once it does it's even harder to do yourself out.

    3. A better way for the government to save money is to axe the PHI rebate as advised by treasury rather than reduce funding to the most vulnerable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renesme View Post
    Your also teaching your kids that it's okay for a male to go and have a good rootin and a tootin and end up with a baby and that its okay for them to walk away and pay nothing towards that child at all. Great parenting. You want to take my kids for a while? I looooove your values.
    Really? You have heard me tell them that? No I haven't told them that at all.

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    Anyway sorry for going off topic.. in answer to the first post.. Yes I do think the payment needs to go up. 246 is ridiculous You can't even get a 1 bedroom unit down here for that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renesme View Post
    Your also teaching your kids that it's okay for a male to go and have a good rootin and a tootin and end up with a baby and that its okay for them to walk away and pay nothing towards that child at all. Great parenting. You want to take my kids for a while? I looooove your values.
    I really disagree with a lot of what LMF has said but I don't think it's necessary to attack her parenting skills. Having studies social policy and also being from a very republican family in the States, disagreeing passionately on these things is daily life. I don't think they're awful people and would trust my future child with them anytime. Just sayin'

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    Lord have mercy this is about me not chasing my ex for CS that's my choice and one I don't feel bad for I also think it helped me live with a lot less stress because he really has no reason to try to make my life difficult like so many people here who have to go through a lot of crap because their ex is angry about CS I dont have that so I am glad I dont want a father to be involved only to not have to pay I want a father who wants to be involved because he wants too.

    They actually do know I don't collect and why I don't They also know he can send money any time he wants but doesn't. They don't care nor are they angry with him.

    I will teach them what my mom taught me not to depend on anyone to take care of me or support me or my children. I don't think that is a bad thing to learn. Yes I had a kid by a guy who wont support them my mistake and now I live with it.

    If i had to do it all over again I still wouldn't turn him in and if the government tried to make me I would tell them it was private collect and leave it at that. That's me my choice and if you don't like it I don't care. My daughters know to be careful of who they have sex with and not to count on anyone helping them raise kids. This will make them more aware. I will say that my 16 year old doesn't agree with CS either or my 15 year old. That's their choice not yours or anyone elses. My kids are great and will be great adults I have no doubt.


 

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