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    Default Reproductive rights *trigger warning*

    Spurred by this article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...le-writer.html

    Do you think partners should have reproductive rights over each other?

    Do you think men should need formal permission to donate sperm?
    Do you think women should be required to have formal permission to donate eggs or to be a surrogate?
    Do you think individuals within a couple should need permission to use these?
    Do you think women should need formal consent from partners before having a termination?
    Do you think individuals in a committed relationship should need permission from their partners before being sterilized?

    Discuss nicely....yes looking at you! You know who you are don't ruin it for everyone trying to have a nice debate

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    Default Reproductive rights *trigger warning*

    Do you think partners should have reproductive rights over each other?

    Do you think men should need formal permission to donate sperm?

    Do you think women should be required to have formal permission to donate eggs or to be a surrogate?

    Do you think individuals within a couple should need permission to use these?

    Do you think women should need formal consent from partners before having a termination?

    Do you think individuals in a committed relationship should need permission from their partners before being sterilized?

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    Default Reproductive rights *trigger warning*

    No to everything. The idea of anyone having rights to any part or procedure of another individual is quite unfathomable.
    The idea to even entertain it sets human rights back hundreds and hundreds of years.
    Self autonomy should be a given.

    I think open and honest discussion within a relationship is the best and only course of action to these issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faroutbrusselsprout View Post
    No to everything. The idea of anyone having rights to any part or procedure of another individual is quite unfathomable.
    The idea to even entertain it sets human rights back hundreds and hundreds of years.
    Self autonomy should be a given.

    I think open and honest discussion within a relationship is the best and only course of action to these issues.

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    Default Reproductive rights *trigger warning*

    Quote Originally Posted by faroutbrusselsprout View Post
    No to everything. The idea of anyone having rights to any part or procedure of another individual is quite unfathomable.
    The idea to even entertain it sets human rights back hundreds and hundreds of years.
    Self autonomy should be a given.

    I think open and honest discussion within a relationship is the best and only course of action to these issues.
    Well said.

    I'd be very hurt though if DH didn't consult with me first, as I am sure he would feel the same.

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    No, no, no.

    The idea of someone having legal rights over another's body is quite disturbing to me.

    A woman does not own her partners sperm in any way, shape or form, and vice versa he does not own her eggs even partly.

    Ideally, in a relationship the people involved will discuss big decisions like termination and sperm donation and come to a mutual understanding. But making it a legal requirement - big no. That sets off alarm bells to me.

    If my partner tried to mount a legal challenge over my eggs then they would no longer be my partner. If I was a man, there was no way I could be with someone who wanted to legally control my sperm either. That's taking control issues to a scary new level.

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    Default Reproductive rights *trigger warning*

    Quote Originally Posted by Bizzybee View Post
    Well said.

    I'd be very hurt though if DH didn't consult with me first, as I am sure he would feel the same.
    Oh absolutely!! If DH came home and said "yeah...donated my sperm today, cool hey.."
    Well.... I doubt he'd be my DH anymore! However that's because he'd broken our trust and commitment to each other by making such a huge decision without me. Not because I believe I have rights to him or his sperm.

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    Default Reproductive rights *trigger warning*

    But you can't in Australia do surrogacy without your partners permission and I'm not sure you can donate eggs either. Not sure about sperm donation. Don't need permission for a termination.

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    ohhh tough questions!

    i think individuals should be able to do what ever they like without needing permission from their partner... you don't own someone just because you marry them!
    but in saying that, i think it should be discussed and talk about before anything happens. all the reasons for and against should be laid out, out of respect for each other. and to always keep that communication open so as not to have relationship resentment and ultimately have relationship breakdown.

    although when it comes to termination... that is a hard one. i think if it is medically necessary then the female has the right to make that decision, but if its just a choice thing, then i think both parents need to make the choice together. i would hate to be a male and have my choices taken away from me! and the father could claim 100% custody if the mother didn't want the baby?


    makes you think though....

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    I think there's a difference between a moral or ethical obligation and a legal one. I think these are areas for individual couple's to decide the rules for themselves as what one couple might think is disrespectful, another couple might have no problem with ie one couple might be fine with each other donating sperm/eggs without consultation, whilst another couple might see it as a breach of trust. And neither is right or wrong.

    So I think it should be left as a moral decision for the individuals involved, not a legal requirement that effectively gives partners rights over each others bodies.


 

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