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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    Well you did say...
    lol thanks, I couldn't remember exactly how it went!

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    Oh I would love that book.

    My Mum drove me mad as a kid by insisting on questioning every single itty bitty piece of information she was told. By the news, by science books, by my homework...she would head off to the library {no internet then!} and do her own research.

    I hated it as a kid and thought she should just damn well accept what she was told.

    Now I'm an adult with a daughter of my own and I'm always telling her things like "We use all of our brain" and "The food pyramid is outdated and wrong" "Einstein was great at school!" and "There's no such thing as taste areas of the tongue"

    I question everything now.

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    Oh I think that book sounds interesting!... after I have read the rest in my pile...

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    TL - that is cool that you have memories of your mum being a 'questioner'!

    I hope to be that crazy mum to my kids too haha!


    ...my own mother is what some people would call a 'sheeple' - very easily led and believes most things.

    Her latest message to me included this -
    "Am reading Dr Goldbergs book Past And Future Lives Revealed which is keeping my spirits up."


    *shudder* -- she is also doing a hypnotherapy course and thinking about 'specialising' in past lives.
    I had to have a 'daughter to mother' chat to her to see exactly what she would be doing, if she was going to be 'suggesting' names and places to people I wouldn't hold my tongue!!

    She claims that she will let her clients guide her through their own memories of past lives.
    I still questioned her with, "How do you know the memories are real?" "How do you seperate false memories from true memories?" etc etc

    She became uncomfortable and just said *hands up in defense mode* 'This really means a lot to me, and I know it can help people'.
    I backed off [for now] ..will see where she goes with it.

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    Wow, I think we must have polar opposite mothers FITB! My Mum is about as skeptical as a person could be given the period she was bought up in (she's now 81). I asked her one day if she believed in life after death and she said "only in how we affect other people" which I thought was a brilliant answer.

    I'm eagerly waiting my purchases from the book depository - come on postie!!

    I've just read Sam Harris's "Lying" which was interesting but I think there were places where it didn't give enough weight to the depth and complexity of people. What did you think of it?

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    'Lying" I thought was an interesting read...

    I guess when it comes down to it it is about 'being honest'.
    It also comes down to perspective too ...for example, when he was talking about the person asking if they looked 'fat' or overweight.
    It depends on what the person being asked TRULY thinks, compared to the next person their idea of being overweight may be incredibly different.
    And because the answer has potential to contribute to eating or other body disorders etc it is tricky.
    Personally THAT examples stands out for me - obviously because I am a woman with weight and self esteem issues.
    But if someone were to ask me that question, I guess my response would be, "Do you feel comfortable"... because I - personally don't feel like I have the authority to set the boundaries on what is a healthy/beautiful figure etc .

    *rambled - sorry


    In regards to the basis of what he is trying to say though - I enjoyed the read and DO try to live honestly. If i don't have an answer to something that I am 100% sure on - I don't try to bluff it, I don't make things up and I don't assume 'common sense' is always reliable.
    [common sense - as in - what the majority in that particular culture at that particular time agree is 'correct']

    I'll have to read it again - it was late when I read it. It definitely got me thinking more critically about the way I respond to questions or conversation at home with teh people I care about, and strangers in general.
    And also to realise that BEING HONEST doesn't neccessarily mean giving away ALL the information to someone who has the potential to cause you harm.



    This "50 things.." book at the moment is talking about UFOs etc -- I skipped a few pages as it was heavily talking about US government etc - and I found it boring
    The next chapters are about Holocaust Deniers, Global Warming and the TV news being a realistic representation of real life...



    I LOVE your mother's take on an after life... I think very much a similar thing

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    Things I don't even try to understand because I think they are bs:
    Astrology
    Psychics
    Vaccinations are about mind control
    Aliens are out to get us
    Amber teething necklaces, and other things like it

    When people talk about them, I literally cannot understand because my brain turns off. I've read my stars, how vague are they!

    One thing freaked me out though with a psychic, she said my child was sent as a test (she wasn't with me at the time) and the way she came to be was part of a bigger plan. I went off my nut and was terrified, but then I thought, she could have said the same to anyone and had it interpreted in their own way. Maybe I have a 'mum' look, maybe just a lucky guess, but gees it was upsetting. My friend went off too, called her a fruit cake or maybe something else.

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    ..oh and Bec - Sam Harris does some great debates online re The Dangers of Religion and some other great talks with the "Four Horsemen" [Dawkins, Dennett, Harris and Hitchens]

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    Default Calling all Skeptics....

    I recommend Trick or Treatment by Simon Singh and Edzard Ernst. A very critical look at 'alternative medicine' including chiro, acupuncture, homeopathy and herbal medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveInTheBed View Post
    'Lying" I thought was an interesting read...

    I guess when it comes down to it it is about 'being honest'.
    It also comes down to perspective too ...for example, when he was talking about the person asking if they looked 'fat' or overweight.
    It depends on what the person being asked TRULY thinks, compared to the next person their idea of being overweight may be incredibly different.
    And because the answer has potential to contribute to eating or other body disorders etc it is tricky.
    Personally THAT examples stands out for me - obviously because I am a woman with weight and self esteem issues.
    But if someone were to ask me that question, I guess my response would be, "Do you feel comfortable"... because I - personally don't feel like I have the authority to set the boundaries on what is a healthy/beautiful figure etc .

    *rambled - sorry


    In regards to the basis of what he is trying to say though - I enjoyed the read and DO try to live honestly. If i don't have an answer to something that I am 100% sure on - I don't try to bluff it, I don't make things up and I don't assume 'common sense' is always reliable.
    [common sense - as in - what the majority in that particular culture at that particular time agree is 'correct']
    That's the actual example I had in mind when I replied before. I think being true to yourself and others can come with age - I am so much more comfortable with being honest with myself and others than what I was in younger years.

    Quote Originally Posted by FiveInTheBed View Post
    ..oh and Bec - Sam Harris does some great debates online re The Dangers of Religion and some other great talks with the "Four Horsemen" [Dawkins, Dennett, Harris and Hitchens]
    Oh, I am very familiar with those debates and discussions
    The Four Horsemen is a brilliant watch but I watched it before I watched many of their debates and I think I should have done that the other way around. One of my favourite debates is Chris Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs Ann Widdecombe and Archbishop Onaiyekan debating whether the Catholic Church was a force for good in the world. Admittedly I despise Ann Widdecombe (I lived in the UK for 8 years so I'm familiar with her) and watching her response when asked why is it ok for a woman to be an MP and not a priest just reinforced my loathing of her.
    In the usual debates I do find it a little frustrating that they don't actually define "religion" and they often seem to be arguing on different levels.
    Have you heard the expression "Hitchslapped"?


 

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