Bubs4Kylee... well that makes sense then. When my DH sperm turned out to be pretty much non-existant, we really thought that donor sperm was going to do the trick. When that didn't work, it was obvious that it was both DH's sperm and my old eggs. When my sister's donor egg didn't implant, we really had to admit that it wasn't just my old eggs, but my body rejecting them. How I wished we just had one problem, and not many issues :-((
Anyhow.... After two years of my FS saying he doesn't believe in Natural Killer Cells (and me going behind his back to Dr M anyhow!), my FS says today, "We should test you for Natural Killer Cells". I could have fallen off my seat, but just smiled inside! So as I was having a Day 21 endometrial scratch anyhow, he did it there and then. I know that it's not the full NKC biopsy that Dr M does and sends off overseas, but it's certainly a start, especially since I've not been able to have the full one done with Dr M due to timings of IVF cycles in the past 6 months since I've been seeing him.
I asked my FS some my questions - he will continue with aspiring and clexane, but wouldn't agree to Prednisolone (which I've been taken for the previous 3 cycles anyhow) as he says it can cause cleft palate. I hadn't heard that before, but thought it strange since on my last cycle one of my nurses actually commented about Prednisolone, so obviously some doctors at that clinic are prescribing it, but obviously not mine. When I mentioned Dexamethasane, I thought he was going to have a fit, so that was a "no" from him. Then I mentioned Feldene (Piroxicam) which is meant to stop the uterus contracting during ET, but he'd never heard of it. He looked it up right there and then, but the first study he found (one from 2009) said it didn't work, so a "no" for that too. I kind of gave up at that point, as was planning to ask about Augementin, Doxycycline and Nuprogen, but I think I'll just leave all those, plus the "no's" for Dr M next week, whom I'm likely to get a less biased opinion.
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17-06-2014 16:47 #471Senior Member
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19-06-2014 07:25 #472
Want to send out hugs to lots of you and I'm sorry I haven't been here much. A lot has been going on..
We had our 10wk scan yesterday and again we have lost another angel. It had stopped growing at 8wks, Mother Nature has again won and twisted the knife into our hearts.
Very angry, hurt and just numb. I'm booked in for a d&c today. We will get the POC tested to see if any answers. Then maybe we work with a recurrent miscarriage genetic counsellor...idk really I'm just very overwhelmed..
19-06-2014 15:04 #473
Zakmick, very sorry to read your update. It's the cruelest twist of all to get that BFP and then to have it snatched away from you, more than once.
Sending you the biggest virtual hugs I can .
Wow Bertie that sounds like a very interesting appt with your FS. Wow amazing he has to look stuff up in front of you.
Good luck with DR M for your precious snow babies.
Im PUPO cycle 12 cycle with two blastys on board. This was my 9 stimm and again our remaining 3 embryos arrested just before being blasty. So again none frozen. I've had two failed thaws rather it happen now then false hope. This is my last cycle with my eggs and DH sperm.
While I'm sad, it's like a relief or ripping off a band aid that was going to sting.
So I'm scared without that, safety of saying to yourself well there is next time.
What will be, will be our next step is the USA for donor embryos.
Sending everyone lots of baby dust
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20-06-2014 07:25 #474
im so terribly sorry for your loss. It never gets easier losing an angel baby. I saw a recurrent miscarriage specialist too. It wasn't what helped me in the end. What state are you in? My m/c specialist was based at the women's and children's hospital SA. I would recommend you get an MIR scan. Get your fs to check for a septum. They missed mine for years. Maybe a lap may help? I had a lap to remove my septum that was missed even with three d/c's and a hysto. Wrong view point. All the best hun sending you much love xxxx
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20-06-2014 20:04 #475
Zakmick just want to send you some
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20-06-2014 21:23 #476
I'm in Melbourne Marzi, this genetic counsellor isn't with a clinic as such, she has funding to do a study into recurrent miscarriage with her research.
I will google it too but what's the septum? And why was it interfering with pregnancy/ trying to get pregnant etc?
Thanks girls for your kind words too x
21-06-2014 23:22 #477
I ended up in a recurrent m/c study too. I stopped going tho when I had my breakdown. I just needed time away from all things for a while. They did some tests (glucose) and stuff, best thing was it was free.
The uterus is normally the shape of an upside down pear. A bicornuate uterus is heart shaped, nothing can be done to change the shape but you can carry to term with this. A septum is a divisional wall or shaped like bunny ears. There is insufficient blood supply to this tissue and in an emby is implanted it will end in m/c. It is found with MIR scan and removed by lap. When implanting under ultra sound they can't tell it's there. After I had the lap to remove it, I had to have a c-sect. Else there was concern how thin the uterus wall was at the opp site after the septum was removed. Also lucky that only one emby stuck as multiple may stretch opp site too far. Risk or rupture etc...Always another hurdle aye?!
hope your doing ok and sending love xx
23-06-2014 11:18 #478Senior Member
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27-06-2014 12:47 #479
May I join???
Hi Ladies Mind if join. I find it really difficult in the monthly threads I don’t want to be negative nelly or cynical about IVF particular with first timers.
I took a break from IVF after our 7th cycle failed in October/November last year and here I am ready to go again (I think).
I am in Cairns but cycle with Wazza in Brisbane as my old FS was repeating the same cycle time and time again with same results each time getting three lonely eggs at EPU and no frosties, recurrent miscarriage we needed a more aggressive approach. Que Wazza. He managed to get 17 mature eggs out of me first go. Unfortunately my husband was unable to provide a fresh sample that day (paraplegic) and TESA it was and the sperm wasn’t great only 6 fertilized and on the day of transfer they wouldn’t go ahead with them. It was an expensive lesson, flights accommodation for naught.
This time we DH is on Arimidex and will be going down early to freeze a sample and we will be first op of the day as our best chance of fresh is before he becomes mobile for the day.
I am ready 8 months off was really good for my head space, I am fit and healthy just finished my first Half Ironman, still training daily and wazza has advised to continue with it for as long as I can he is happy for me to stay running swimming cycling boxing bootcamp as long as I feel good heart rate isn’t excessive and not too hot as its winter up here its about as cool as I ever will be.
I am positive it will work because I just bought a new carbon tri bike murphy’s law would suggest that 8th time will be the charm and I won’t get to ride it for months – here is hoping girls.
Good luck to all of you. I will read back from the beginning for a catch up tonight.
28-06-2014 04:57 #480
Welcome bellavista. There are a great bunch of girls on this thread. Vent away.
I like you took up obstacle racing to manage my losses. The bigger the better.
Good luck for next cycle.
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