I read that one study that was posted. From what I read it had interesting hypothesis but not really enough to sway my current philosophies on vaccinating.
You are right, there is still so much that medical scientist don't know about the immune system, in relation to auto immune disease, could it not be the same as Autism, that it isn't in fact more common, but more known about now and therefore more widely diagnosed? I am just musing here by the way - I have no idea.
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In such a study you could not rule out confounding factors, environmental aspects etc either.
Can you please elaborate on what exactly you mean by this statement - it is just a bit unclear to me?
17-08-2012 08:25 #204
It seems common sense that the unnatural introduction of a dozen strains of disease at one time into a young child's immune system could potentially be detrimental. Unfortunately no studies to link, as I stated.
17-08-2012 08:28 #205
to prove causation you need to do three things;
1. time order relationship
2. rule out confounding variables
3. they need to co vary (the two variables)
There could just as easily be a correlation between peanut butter and autism - this is the example i made earlier of people who do not understanf science trying to interpret it themselves.
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17-08-2012 08:38 #209
Here we go, measles outbreak in Campbeltown and all the children involved were not fu
I think what she is saying is that there has never been a study ( or likely to be one) on the long term effects with the current recommended schedule of 29 vaccines by 18 months of age, to do this you would need thousands of babies half vaccinated half not, in similar environments, study them for 10 plus years
17-08-2012 08:39 #210
However, as you know my dd is not fully vaxed, and not to schedule, I am fully vaxed and carry the gene but don't have the disease, and my mum had very few vaxes (lived in the bush with limited access to anything medical) until 4 years ago when she started working with Indigenous children in a school, it was part of her being employed there. Although not tested until dd's diagnosis, she has had symptoms her entire adult life and before that she lived off fruit, veg and rice growing up so no symptoms could be present.
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