Beebs - I agree with your post, I am referring to comments such as exhibit A below
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09-08-2012 08:56 #231
09-08-2012 09:05 #232
I don't see how Del's comment is demeaning. Its true that women are expected to be the primary caregiver and be the one to take time off for illnesses etc.
09-08-2012 09:05 #233
09-08-2012 09:10 #234
A patriarchal society is so much more complicated than men oppressing women. Its a whole system that puts women AND men in their place and both men and women contribute to that system.
If you think we don't live in a patriarchal society then why do men very, very, very rarely take a womans last name? We can all say its our choice now but there are not so subtle cultural pressures that sway us. Why don't men have more paternity rights and pay, why aren't they encouraged to take more paternity leave? Why is it more women who work part-time? Most women stop breastfeeding before 6 months, so it isn't just that. Its all coming but its all so damn slow.
Feminism is still relevant in our society, it benefits men and women. And its certainly relevant on a global scale, look at the female Saudi runner at the Olympics, first one *allowed* to compete. All the female atheletes had to walk behind the men at the opening ceremony!
I think not to define yourself as a feminist, fair enough but to actually say you are NOT a feminist is to somehow reject it, as though it is something negative.
Ah gee, I ramble.
09-08-2012 09:18 #235
I'm simply saying that for women that do work, that they are usually the ones left to take sick days. Some women WANT to work, some have to. As SAHM's we are no better than working mums and that is your insinuation.
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09-08-2012 09:19 #236-
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Oh I agree! I can't stand the way people reduce men to incapable morons. We let them run the world, but lol, they can't work a washing machine. I like my man because he is smart and funny and I can have fabulous debates with him, he is very capable and so am I. Like that Marriage show that's coming on soon, I can't remember it's name but it's something about, "what if men organised your wedding", and it shows a stripper coming out of the cake, the bride with a pint of beer, and more stereotypes I can't remember. That annoys me just as much as stereotypes against women. I don't think all men are buffoons.
09-08-2012 09:20 #237
I disagree, I don't think women are expected to do that. I think women FEEL the expectation to do it, but I don't necessarily think that the expectation is actually there. And whilst women statistically do the majority of housework I would like to see the stats on statistically who does the most manual labour around the house such as mowing the lawn etc.
I do the majority of housework in the house but DH does the yard. I also know equal number of people that have fairly equal relationships in the home. My brother and SIL took shared time off so that one of them was home for the first 12 months of my nephews life.
I think a big part of the issue is that women feel that they shouldn't need to ask for things around the hosue to be done, partners should just 'offer' to do it. As many people on here have already mentioned we are dealing with behaviour that has been around for years and I think a lot of women would find if they asked their partner to do something they would.
09-08-2012 09:22 #238
09-08-2012 09:24 #239
It's pretty simple to me, feminism is the want for equal rights for men and women. Not the want for them to be the same, but for equal rights under the law, to have the same opportunity and the same freedom to be able to achieve whatever they desire. Simple.
Next year my husband and I will be working for the same "company" but statistically speaking his ability to get promoted will far outstrip mine because he's male, women typically get promoted slower in our field, that's just the way it is, so to ever outrank him I'll have to work bloody hard while he just has to show up.
Really? Fair? Not even.
09-08-2012 09:28 #240
We were discussing how men and women weren't equal and I talked about the experiences of a working mum and how they differ to a working dad. That's all.
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