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12-07-2012 20:50 #131
12-07-2012 21:49 #132Senior Member
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12-07-2012 22:27 #133
i'm a selective vaxxer, don't do flu, chicken pox, hep b at birth.
my bf is a non-vaxxer, my other bf is a full vaxxer.
i see both sides of the debate but agree with pp's that we should be able to have individual vaccines.
eg. the mmr debate. if it was available for those people that want it separate, they would have had a lot more people vaxxing when the theories started coming out. at the end of the day our children are OUR responsibility, not the drs or the government and we have the right of the final decision.
unfortunately you will always get extremists on both sides (just like the abortion debate) and lots of 'statistics' and 'facts' are thrown about.
13-07-2012 08:55 #134
Therefore I arm my self with as much information about disease infection rates, symptoms and I am very quick to see my Dr if I have any doubts. I also incubate my family during times of illness - even the sniffles. I take very seriously the decision to delay vaxx in my family as it comes with great responsibility and accountability. I want nothing more than healthy and safe children and my decision to delay takes that into consideration.
Adults can have the attitude of well I'm vaccinated, it's just a cold etc and walk around the shops coughing up whopping cough germs everywhere. Parents of vaxx children think 'my child's vaxx'd - they won't get xxx' because sadly some people in the community think that it's 100% effective for life. That can be frustrating too.
If the government wants to allay the growing and justified fears about vaccination and the declining participation rates - they have to start addressing the idea of singular vaxx's. Almost everyone here that currently doesn't has said that they would do WC if it was on its own - including me. I would honestly feel a whole lot more comfortable if that was an option available for us.
13-07-2012 10:00 #135
I love reading these threads. Such strong opinions on both sides. In the end we as parents will do what we decide is right for our child. I personally believe that immunisation is very important and I would very much keep a new born away from an unimmunised child. However that unimmunised child has a parent who loves them and is guided by their own belief and therefore should not be shunned. We each have choices and nobody has a right to tell us what to do. To each his own.
13-07-2012 10:06 #136
Im sure it's been said, but it's the tragedy of the commons dilemma, and people who don't vax are free-loaders.
The only reason a child is so unlikely to catch a lot of serious illnesses is because MOST people do the responsible thing and vaccinate their kids. Its the common good. Non-vaxxers (for non-medical reasons) are free-riders. Everyone who vaxxes their children is prepared to take a small amount of risk (low likelihood of side effects) for the protection of their own children and others. I am continually appalled that other parents feel that they don't also have to participate in the greater good and instead opt out of the very small risk associated with vaccines for their own child but get the benefits of a mostly vaccinated society because most other people do the right thing.
It's a disgrace.
And yes, more adults should be up to date. But all children and all adults should be vaccinated. It's for the good of society.
For everyone saying "read the science!!", I could not agree more.
13-07-2012 10:07 #137
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13-07-2012 10:17 #139
It's not just about the safety of your child. It's about the safety of all children. Non-vaxxers completley disregard the safety of other children.
In direct reply to the OP, Im speechless at the selfishness.
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13-07-2012 10:28 #140
I retract my previous post.
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