This is all (well i am presuming) hypothetical anyway.
I don't think you could ever say how you would feel till it happened. If ywere are a mother and your son raped and brutally murdered a child for no reason, you would not know how you would be affected by that until it happened. Till then, its just speculation.
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Thank you beebs for totally understanding what I was trying to say. I'm going to step away now because what I was talking about was OT anyway, it just stemmed from something another PP said.
11-07-2012 09:33 #95Senior Member
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I have heard that in the States they have sadly found that quite a few who have been out to death have later been found innocent or to have had an unfair trial. It's just not something I want to risk. I don't think it belongs in a civilised society.
I also believe the families of victims are entitled to know why the offender commited the crime. This is often a natural part of grieving and impossible if we go around bumping them off.
I had bookmarked an old website but since lost it - testimonies from families of victims who were against the death penalty. There were loads. One man said he never wants another father to feel how he does.
11-07-2012 09:34 #96
The posts in question actually *criticise* those families who stand by their children in those situations (I recall her stating that it's disgusting?!).
I am merely pointing out that while it would be very difficult to fathom ones feelings on this matter if you have not experienced it, it is not as easy as simply disowning your child. Every one of those mothers wants to believe that their child didn't commit the crime. It's not disgusting - it's love. And hope. It's also fear of a life without their child who they nurtured in their womb and raised from birth, and a million other emotions. I'm simply pointing out that it is not so easily done.
Sure, some families can easily walk away. They might not wish them dead, but can move on. However it is far from disgusting if you can't and don't (and seeing families grasp onto that hope shouldn't make your blood 'boil').
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11-07-2012 09:37 #97
The death penalty has only been raised here in extreme crimes..what about in countries where the sentence is handed down over adultery, smuggling drugs, stealing, trying to escape your country? What about then?
I think humans have always been incredibly ********. We are trying to create a civilised utopia, which is fantastic, but it largely sweeps under the rug, some of the more base primal instincts. One of those being, an eye for an eye. If someone hurt my daughter, I would tear them apart with my own bare hands. I can rip a phone book in half when I get really angry, raaaar, I am the Hulk. That is my basic instinct. To really really hurt you and make you bleed in a million pieces.
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11-07-2012 09:41 #98
In a perfect world, where there was absolute certainty of a person's guilt and no chance WHATSOEVER of the death penalty being abused, then I would say I would be for it.
But then, how do we decide who deserves it? A person with a brain tumor might not deserve it. A person with a history of abuse might not deserve it. But then again they might, because how are we to know if that reason is the cause of their actions or if they would have done it anyway?
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11-07-2012 09:45 #100Senior Member
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Witwicky, You are accusing me of misinterpreting your posts, when you have done the exact same to me.
I think we are talking about different things again, I am talking about the families who refuse to believe any wrong doing on their child's part - even if it has been proven.
Anyway - this thread really isn't worth fighting over.
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