i think every generation says this.
i remember reading a piece from ancient greece complaining about the 'youth of today'
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19-06-2012 20:04 #11-
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19-06-2012 20:05 #12
I think it also has a lot to do with younger people being spoon-fed everything they need, and still feeling as though society owes them. I have literally just read. Very interesting quote on facey (so yeah, could be made up but so what? I actually liked what it had to say and it gave me food for thought!) am on phone so will take time to find it again... Brb
19-06-2012 20:08 #13
19-06-2012 20:13 #14
I don't know if this is readable, but I feel it's definitely applicable
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19-06-2012 20:24 #15
Well when parents discipline is 'now petal dear we don't throw rocks at windows' what do you expect.
I agree with toughlove, everything that isn't sugar coated with a cherry on top is abuse.
Don't get me wrong I don't think beating the crap out of a child is a good idea and it doesn't work but to an extent kids should be a little scared of their parents. Not in a bad way scared but more scared of the consequences.
I have heard the most ridiculous things don't mark with red pen it will lower their self esteem, don't yell its abuse, don't ground them you are depriving them of their liberties, everyone is a winner etc. What do you expect is going to come out of these kids.
'back in the day' there where problems also. But Im shocked at how kids behave these days and no one will tell me it was like this when I was young.
19-06-2012 20:30 #16
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19-06-2012 21:07 #18
Someone else's fault or there is an excuse.
I don't think it's discipline that's the issue it's that teaching people about responsibility and loo insider risks has gone out the window.
People need to realise the rules are there in everyone's best interests not to ruin your fun.
19-06-2012 21:15 #19
i remember talking to my great grandfather when he was alive, and holy sh!t, the things he did, i never would have considered.
BUT - the way things worked back then was, no matter who scr3wed up, they'd all get a beating in the evenings - oldest to youngest.
since my great grandfather was the oldest, he got the most severe beating, regardless of whether he was good, or bad
i certainly don't think society is nearly as bad as you are all making it out to be.
and sure, studies are showing that there are things that are negative towards child development - and some of us wish to avoid them (smacking, shaming etc) - i was certainly raised without corporal punishment or shaming, and i turned out well
in fact, i turned out a heck of a lot better than the kids who received corporal punishment in a lot of cases.
add to that, we understand a lot more. we know about things like SPD/ASD et al, and so we *need* to modify the way we raise children, because to hit a child with SPD, even just a 'light tap', can be the same for that child, as though you'd belted them across the face.
I think its also hard for children to learn respect, when they're not respected.
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19-06-2012 21:26 #20
wow, great thread but very complex.
i definitely think it has to do with discipline and sugar coating everything. i've been told that time out is now considered harmful....ffs
personally i think society is more violent today - young people (10 yo) stealing cars, teenagers beating, robbing and raping elderly people etc.
i'm a true believer in existentialism but unfortunately no-one is responsible for their actions these days, there are always excuses. my son got beat up at school this week yet the bully didn't even get a phone call to the parents because he was 'special needs'. sorry, but i need to know my kid is safe (hence we pulled him out of his school).
i'm not saying physical punishment is the answer, but what we are doing at the moment isn't either. at the end of the day people (parents and children) need to start taking accountability for their actions.
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