There is an interesting debate going on over smacking and disipline in general in the Parenting section, and it got me thinking after a conversation with my 91yr old Pop today (as my 1-yr old bit me on the arm and my pop said "give him a smack" - which I wouldn't, but I guess that sums up the attitude!)
It appears to me that over the generations, as a generalisation, that society has become more lenient in their disipline and punishment of children. It *appears* that over generations less parents use smacking and other harsh penalties to encourage good behaviour and respect. Children and youth *appear* to have less respect for authority figures, such as teachers, the police and the elderly, than they did in the past. Gone are the days where the parents gave teens a 'clip over the ears' for back-chatting, and police gave errant youth a kick up the backside and a call to the parents.
What are we doing wrong? Is it that we are so much softer in our approach? Does it come back to the smacking issue at all, and the fact that we tend, now, to treat our children with equal rights as adults? I don't know, but I suspect it might......there seems to be little/minor consequences for misbehaviour and disrespect these days and you have to wonder if it stems from childhood?
What do you think? What has changed?
(Just FYI - I was very occaisionally smacked as a child, usually for disrespecting my mother - this involved a bare-bum smack on the backside from my dad - and yep it hurt, and left a red mark! But I have no ill-feelings for my parents and feel they did a bloody good job as parents! )
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19-06-2012 17:42 #1
*Spin off* Why do today youth seem to have so much less respect?
19-06-2012 18:02 #2Senior Member
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Personally, I think it's because as adults, we no longer raise our children to respect other adults. Or respect anybody, for that matter. I'm not talking about a clip behind the ear. I've seen some incredibly respectful children who are pulled up immediately on their disrespectful behavior, and some who haven't been. The children who show respect are usually the ones who are shown respect by other people, even during discipline.
I've seen some kids who are NEVER disciplined, except by screaming/hitting/name calling who, as a result, have no respect for other people. And realistically, why the buggery should they?
They're also taught by example.
Bogan parents, true bogan parents, who show no respect for ANYBODY or anything, I've noticed, have kids who have no respect in turn, and the cycle continues. *
Parents who show respect for other people/other peoples property, etc, seem to have respectful children.*
* I am aware this is a generalisation and there are exceptions. Perhaps it's a socio-economic factor, as much as it is a disciplinary one?
19-06-2012 18:04 #3
19-06-2012 18:18 #4
That's because in the land of gumdrops, rainbows and lollipops, Mummies and Daddies kiss and cuddle all of those bad behaviours away from their precious little butterballs. The problem is, nobody understands their sweetiekin's unique needs, and telling them "You can't do that" stunts their creativity.
Parents are afraid to cross their kids anymore. Tell your kid no in public and you get The Collective Glare. Send them to their room and it's abuse.
I've had a threat of calling child services on me before. Why? Because my five year old told an old lady with a walker to "move it or lose it", and tried to push past her. In our family this is absolutely one of the worst things you can do.
She was immediately lectured very sternly and made to apologise. The girl behind us in line told me to stop it or she'd call protective services.
My voice wasn't even raised, just deepened and with direct eye contact.
That's enough to earn you a report.
19-06-2012 18:28 #5
19-06-2012 18:39 #6Senior Member
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Agree with missie mack. We're much more civilised now.
My uncle suffers greatly due to my grandfather's abhorrent treatment of him - beltings, awful to my grandma, demanding "respect" etc etc. my unncle actually went off the rails until well into adulthood
My parents never smacked me, never yelled at me, grounded me once from memory because I was in danger. I consider myself a pretty upstanding citizen if I do say so myself
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19-06-2012 18:48 #7
I don't think young people had any more respect in the old days. They were probably a lot more scared of authority figures, but that doesn't equal respect.
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19-06-2012 18:49 #8Senior Member
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It's different horses for different courses for the most part. General respect for people aside, social conventions change with each generation.
Of course that absolutely does not preclude me from whinging about Gen Y.
19-06-2012 18:57 #9Senior Member
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Well I'm gen y and almost 24 and I have to say that most people I know younger than me are completely disrespectful.
I cannot believe the language that comes out of kids mouths these days, and I'm talking 10 year olds and younger. And definitely no respect for adults.
I really believe it comes down to discipline and role modeling. When I was younger there is no way that myself or my peers (about 90% of them anyway) would speak to elders or people of authority the way they do today.
19-06-2012 19:01 #10
Personally I think this is probably a complaint that older generations have had since the beginning of time without much basis. I think older generations ALWAYS think badly of the younger generations. I think society will trundle on as it always had, each generation thinking the next is heralding the end of civilisation.
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