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20-06-2012 15:48 #31
20-06-2012 15:53 #32
Op, ill be watching if i can make it to 9:30.
GFP, I will be crossing the road also for exactly the same reasons you said - fear!
I am married to an 1/2 Asian man and when we go to Asian restaurants my SIL always asks for a knife and fork because she cant use chop sticks and they will always without question come and give them to me assuming the blonde girl can't use chop sticks.
Is that racist towards me?
20-06-2012 15:59 #33Senior Member
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It's very common in England for people to say that they love visiting London but could never live there. Dirt, crime, and rudeness are usually the 3 things that put a lot of people off. (Although of course there are lots of great things about London too - it's just very different from most other places in England).
I wonder if overt racism is linked to high areas of multiculturalism. You'd almost think it should be the opposite, but in my experience (which, granted, is just that) areas that have higher density migrant populations often seem to experience higher degrees of racist behaviour. Just a thought anyway.
ETA - Just realised that was all a bit rambly. I just meant to say that London is notorious for a 'rude' culture within England itself, and also that it has a much higher proportion of migrant population than anywhere else in England. Don't think I'm being totally articulate! I wasn't trying to insinuate the racist behaviour CAME from that migrant population, but rather I had noticed (anecdotally) a link between racist behaviours when there are more people of migrant backgrounds in one place. I wonder if differences in perception toward a group rather than an individual come into play here.
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20-06-2012 16:36 #34
Isn't not noticing race offensive to some people though. Like they have so much pride in thier culture and take the time to keep thier language alive while using english as well and then no one acknowledges that in the slightest because everyone is the same? IMO inclusion is not really about not noticing but that accepting that these differences are awesome and welcome and normal because every single person on earth is different. By making such an effort to not notice you are saying that there is something wrong with acknowledging thier differences and therefore implies a lack of acceptance. I would rather notice the differences and celebrate them rather than ignore them. That includes the various white people as well. In my 2 yr old class we had mainly white kids but within that white group we had polish, swedish, swiss, and german and we taught the kids about all those cultures and used many different languages in our songs. Difference should be celebrated.
20-06-2012 16:41 #35
20-06-2012 16:53 #36Senior Member
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I think you would have to walk around with your eyes closed to NOT notice race (in some cases).
The definition of racism is (as copied and pasted from wiki dictionary):
- The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as...
- Prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.
So I don't think noticing that someone comes from a different race counts as racism.
I'm a real people watcher, so I could probably tell you what jewellery someone was wearing and whether they had mascara on. Skin colour/ race would definitely be noticed!
And I probably scare people from some countries as, if they're speaking a language I recognise/ speak, then I sometimes slow down and eavesdrop a bit just to practise my listening skills and see how much I can make out!
20-06-2012 21:01 #37
Anyone watching now?
20-06-2012 21:09 #38
Just finished watching. Interesting, not quite sure how I feel about it just yet.
20-06-2012 21:11 #39
Sergio is an idiot. That's all!
20-06-2012 21:17 #40
Is anybody watching the Ross kemp show after this one
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