Here's a bit of background on me:
DH and I have a 3 year old DD, conceived naturally after 10 months TTC. We have been TTC baby number 2 for just over 2 years now. 3 cycles of chlomid and 2 of FSH injections have failed. I have been told I have ' unexplained infertility' however I am not happy with that diagnosis when I have only had bloods and ultrasounds done. I have been reading up on infertility a bit and think FS should have done a tubal blockage test as well. Anyway I have moved interstate and will be seeing a new FS in two weeks. I really want him to do a lap as I believe I have a lot of symptoms of endometriosis. My menstrual cycle is VERY heavy with lots of clots and cramping can get so bad that I don't want to move. I have cramping and abdominal pains at random times throughout my cycle, sometimes bad enough to make me double over in pain. It can feel like a ,pulling' or 'overstretched sort of pain. During my menstrual cycle having full bowels and needing to poo makes me want to cry ( sorry TMI I know). Over the years I have ended up in my GP's office with abdominal pain a few times and I get sent for an ultrasound and they find nothing and send me home.
So for those of you who have had a laparoscopy what led the FS or doctor to send you for one. Also how long did it take before you could have it done?
I feel that taking FSH injections or any other fertility treatment is a waste if there is something more going on with my body. I want them to do the test now not after I have spent thousands of dollars on treatment that doesn't work.
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01-06-2012 20:04 #1
Laparoscopy and Endometriosis questions
02-06-2012 15:52 #2
I was similar to you in that we had a 3 yr old DS and had been TTC no 2 for nearly 2 years. I had also been diagnosed with unexplained secondary infertility but didn't have any of the painful problems you described. After my FS suggested trying a lap I had to wait 2 months to fit into his schedule and make sure I was definitely not pregnant. It was done in the middle of my cycle (which were fairly long and all over the shop) and was fairly routine. FS didn't find any blockages or anything to concern him so I kinda thought well that was pointless!!! I had my normal AF and started to think about heading down the IVF path.
Well would you believe I fell pregnant the very next cycle! Obviously the lap gave me a good clean out and was just what I needed. It might have been a coincidence but I'm sure that's why I now have my beautiful almost 4 month old bubba boy!
Not sure if that answers your questions but that was my experience. Good luck with everything!
02-06-2012 17:09 #3
Thanks chippa. Just trying to gather info before blindly trusting another FS.
03-06-2012 17:16 #4Member
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Sorry to hear you have been struggling with those symptoms, it really sucks!
I was very similar with those same symptoms, though I had extremely heavy bleeding, which i affectionately called 'hemorrhaging", where a the biggest tampon and pad I could find wouldn't last 30 mins... really had trouble working with that!
The other symptoms though, I am surprised your last FS didn't whip you into surgery straight away! The trouble with the bowel movements is the dead give away sign for endometriosis in the 'Pouch of Douglas'. I have this.
The clotting is a classic sign of fibroids, adenomyosis or just plain old endo! I have all three The first two would have shown on your ultrasounds if you had them, endo doesn't.
All of these things will play havoc with your fertility, but are treatable, you just need a plan! And a good FS!
I don't know anything about Dr Hassam, but I do know that one of Australia's leading endo and fibroid dr's is at Melb IVF, Dr Jim Tsaltis, he is also a fantastic person and a apparently loved by all - from what I've heard and seen in posts in the IVF section. I live in Canberra and my FS and specialist Gyno said to go to him or another dr in Sydney, which was closer.
I just re-read your post and swear you sound just like me!
I have just had surgery to remove 3 large fibroids, 1 adenomyoma and some of the endo. The Pouch of Douglas endo they couldn't get to, long story!
My FS said to me, that only we truly know our our bodies, so go with your gut instinct. I was once told that I was a hypochondriac, only to have about 3 surgeries since, for endo. My specialist gyno, also my surgeon, told me two things after my first surgery, 1. that I have amazing pain tolerance, and 2. that I should go back to those previous Drs and give them the finger
The point being, trust your gut, find a good FS/specialist gyno, and remember that Drs are only human beings, capable of being wrong!!!
I forgot to mention, three months on from my surgery and I have been hemorrhage free, almost period pain free, and the pain at random times in my cycle has completely gone
I felt compelled to reply because your symptoms sound so much like mine, so I really wish you the best
Any i'll also apologise just in case, i'm trying to reply quickly so it may come out randomly
03-06-2012 17:22 #5
They are the symptoms I had with endo. Painful bowel movements can sometimes mean the adhesions are on the Pouch of Douglas. But it can often be seen on u/s my gyno pointed it out on the screen...
03-06-2012 22:27 #6
Thanks for your reply Amabel. I think my FS in Canberra thought that because I already had a child to DH and I was only 24 when I started seeing her that I would be an easy case. She was pretty flippant and would say 'I'll put you on Chlomid and you won't need to make another appointment because you will be pregnant by then. Hmmm well evidently not. I had no idea about fertility treatment and just trusted her because she was the expert. It wasn't until I joined some threads on bubhub that I realized I needed to do more research.
Your 'hemorrhaging' sounds worse than mine but I can go though a tampon in about an hour on the first two days of my cycle. I usually wear a tampon and a pad to minimize leakage but I know it's just not normal or 'just a heavy cycle'.
10 days until I meet my new FS, fingers crossed he is more thorough than the last one. At least i can feel more confident I'm on the right track though. I was reading through lots of infertility things and when I come across the info on Endo I thought ' wow this is me'.
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13-06-2012 20:45 #7
So just a quick update. Had FS appt today. He was great and really informative. He is booking me in for lap, hysto and tubal patency. Fingers crossed this leads to some answers about what is going on with my body
22-06-2012 21:14 #8Senior Member
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Im in a similar situation. Ive had quite significant pain which seems to be increasing around period time. We have been trying for about 7 months and started seeing a FS because Im 37. We've had all the blood tests etc. and just got back from FS today and Im going to be booked in for a lap for next month.
Part of me is almost hoping that endo has been the problem as that would explain the pain and hopefully post lap it may disappear but also hoping they find not a lot and just do all the clear out activities and then we get lucky over the next few months..
Im a bit nervous about having the op, mainly because I remember my appendix op and that hurt so not looking forward to similar..
Good luck with yours. Ive read a few articles about taking vitamin C for a couple of weeks to build up body strength and healing properties..
24-06-2012 23:11 #9
I feel exactly the same about hopeing they do find endo but that it's not too bad. At least then I will have an answer to my unexplained infertility, a fix for the pain and other symptoms and a better chance at having another bubby. I think I will be gutted if I have this op and thy say everything is fine and they still don't know what's wrong with me.
My operation is booked in for Tuesday 3rd July and I'm really stressed and nervous about it.
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26-06-2012 19:03 #10Senior Member
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Well a big good luck and hope it all goes well. Looking forward to comparing notes. Im still waiting on a call to confirm my date for next month
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