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29-05-2012 12:36 #321
29-05-2012 12:38 #322
Believe it or not, religion is the reason a lot of laws exist or don't exist. It's not being said to personally insult someone's spirituality - I see religion and faith as completely separate for many people.
- Euthanasia: because a lot of our law is modelled on systems that were religious, not secular
- Marriage: the definition of marriage in the Marriage Act, is derived from traditional religious marriage ceremonies (man and woman only)
- Abortion: I know it's legal now, but religious weight was the reason it remained illegal for as long as it did
Because unfortunately, a lot of the big politicians are religious and cannot separate religion from state. Or do not accept that we live in a SECULAR country. And these politicians by far outweigh the ones who are prepared to advocate for the opposite side so either end up leading (Tony Abbott) or backing down so they don't get squeezed out (like Gillard). The ridiculous thing is they are pandering to a very vocal but very small minority, and it sickens me that that's how it is in our supposedly democratic country.
However - just because you believe in God does not mean you are immediately against euthanasia or equal marriage: but you can't honestly argue that religion has nothing to do with the laws as they stand because there is a precedent. It has happened before and it'll happen again with another issue down the track, I can guarantee it.
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29-05-2012 12:45 #325
And that is, i think, a very personal decision for each person to make individually (and with their family) - but i'm just trying to explain why *i* think the law may have been worded that way.
[and i'm not sure i could imagine it at 70 either - most of my family live till their mid 90s with most mental faculties intact. but i think i'd like knowing the option was there if i wanted/needed it]
29-05-2012 12:45 #326
Lily, do you have a link to the whole article? I like to read it from the source. When you spend as long as I do studying, you like to see the whole thing before commenting on it.
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29-05-2012 12:45 #327
Oh for crying out loud! Wasn't the OP asking if WE were for or against?? Why does it matter why? Are you for it or against it? Pretty simple question really. Don't have to have a b!tch fight about it like school children
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29-05-2012 12:48 #328
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29-05-2012 12:48 #329
I think it is possible to discuss the social implications of religion without calling for christians to feel the need to defend the existance of their god? Surely this discussion doesnt need to be reduced to that
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