Everyone is talking about religion having no part in it and the persons right to choice. What I'm saying is it does matter, the people left behind do matter. Everyones opinion on the subject matters, no one is superior, not even the person wanting that choice because it affects everyone and that person will be a party to it without choice.
IF I'm not religious but my mother and my husband is and I want to be euthanised, how does that not affect them? I'm their daughter and wife, they are against euthanasia and whether you like it or not, a belief in God will weigh heavely on that persons mind and heart for the rest of their lives, it will affect them psychologically and spiritually in a big way. Who makes that decision? Who matters more? Ofcourse no one wants to see someone suffer, but then being for euthanasia are you ok with the people left behind suffering emotional torment and guilt? The person ill is making that choice, but the family member isn't given a choice? How is that explained?
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28-05-2012 20:09 #221Guest Guest
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You are basically saying that you can't agree with it because of the psychological suffering of the people left behind. But what about the emotional and physical suffering of the one who is dying. Doesn't everyone deserve a last wish and if it is that then who are we to say no?
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28-05-2012 20:22 #223
I'm for it in the right circumstances. I think if you have a terminal illness it is fine. Why delay the inevitable.Suicide is a horrible alternative. I think it could be misused.
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28-05-2012 20:32 #225Guest Guest
No I'm not basically saying I'm against it. I'm asking questions and seeing both sides of the argument here. I have a right to question something like this don't I? How could I make such a stance on a subject that I don't even know much about, I didn't know that countries guidelines to euthanasia before Finb posted it just now.
How does anyone make a stance like this based purely on their emotion and not knowing how it actually works?
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28-05-2012 20:37 #226
I don't think religious views should form your view on this subject.
My mum is deteriorating daily before our eyes. She has MS. It's a horrible disease. I can see my mum is in pain. She is a mere shadow of her former self and she hates it. She hates not being able to walk unaided, get dressed by herself, make dinner, carry a cup of tea to the table. I would have no problem ending her pain if she ever asked. My dad is religious, he would do it in an instant as well.
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28-05-2012 20:41 #227
After a quick Google, Craig Ewert?
Link would be distressing to some I imagine.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...own-on-TV.html
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what about those who are so sick the doctors have stopped treating? Do you think that cancers are going to shrink themselves?
We're not discussing the elderly here, we're discussing the terminally sick.
I feel sick at this thread, i'm so sorry for all of those out there who are suffering through things we can't imagine. I hope the laws change for you sooner than later. My goodness, that poor woman dying while throwing up her own fecal matterTruly horrifying
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28-05-2012 20:47 #229
But why should a person be left to suffer a horrible, painful, undignified death just so that you (the collective you, not targeting you LOTN) can be spiritually at peace. In this life, we are affected by others all the time. My BFF thinks that I am going to go to hell because I haven't accepted God into my life, but her spirituality can't guide my life and my decisions, no matter how much I love her. (BTW, she hasn't said that I am going to hell, but just from discussions that we have had, I know this is how she feels about us non-believers).
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28-05-2012 20:48 #230
I would imagine the decision to euthanase would be made in much the same way as a do not resus order is made - through family.conference and mediation, involving healthcare providers and counsellors.
Everybody is heard, and the family have the chance to get their head around their loved ones decision to refuse treatment and accept imminent death. I imagine the same would be the case for euthanasia, only they are accepting that the person will die at a particular time by their own will.
If the person wants to die, but the family want the person to live, one party is going to have to compromise at some point. For DNR orders and euthanasia alike. Communication and empathy are key to this issue.
Also, for the termibally ill, death is imminent anyway. The family are facing emotional distress either way.
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