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    Definately for. I watched my grandmother die of cancer and it was a slow horrible death at the end. In fact she died from a morphine overdose which is what kills most cancer patients.. I don't see the difference between that and euthanasia except it's slower and more painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Want2TTC View Post
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    Kind of weird, but when we went to visit my grandma (advanced dementia and renal failure), my dad took me aside and said 'if I ever get like that, please kill me'. I was 12! Scared the crap out of me, but I understood. I would never want to live like she did.
    For me, it's threefold.
    1) I would not want to suffer for months/years with no chance of survival and no enjoyment.
    2) if I was terminal, I would want the chance to have a proper goodbye, with a definite time and place.
    3) Possibly the silliest (for me) part of it : pride. I do not want to spend my last years being washed, fed, toileted. That is my personal idea of hell.

    Just my opinion, please don't take offence to it
    I feel exactly the same

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    What about someone who has terminal cancer..is dying..can barely walk..has risk of losing eyesight..bones breaking..organs failing..her fav thing to do was read..even this she can't do as she feels sick 24/7..she is only 58 yrs old (has 4 daughters and a loving husband who have been together since 17 years old)..she will never get better..her quality of life is awful...she is not afraid of death/dying...wants to choose the day..wants to decide who will be there and how this will happen...

    how can anyone appose this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maria02 View Post
    I think a line needs to be made between withdrawal of treatment and euthanasia.

    Taking someone off (eg) ventilator support, life saving medications, chemo, etc etc is withdrawal of care and not euthanasia.

    Euthanasia is actually giving someone something that will end their life, be it tablet form, injections etc.
    Euthanasia is what we're discussing, not withdrawal of care.

    I'm for euthanasia because I've heard of the devastating consequences of withdrawal of care. My friend watched her father die a slow and excruciatingly painful death when his cancer spread throughout just about every organ in his body, including his brain. He had been given as much morphiene as they legally could give him (without killing him) yet he still groaned and cried with pain every time they had to move him.

    There was nothing they could do for him medicine-wise - there was no point in putting him through chemo when he wasn't able to be cured. There was nothing they could do to stop the cancer.

    Why keep him alive when he had mere days/weeks to live and he was suffering? And his family were watching him suffer?

    I don't believe the medical system in Australia is so overrun with doctors and nurses who see patients as nuisances that they just want to bump off They wouldn't be in that industry if this were the case. The few dealings I've had with the hospital system the staff have done nothing short of their best to keep patients as comfortable as possible. We could have the best pallative care in the world, but people would still suffer with pain and degradation without euthanasia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veve View Post

    I think you should be able to write a document (while in sound mind etc) and document what you want to happen in certain situations in your life. If I am in a car accident, and can not be revived - do I want the machines turned off or not ... if I am diagnosed with cancer and reach a point where I verbally (or other ways?) express that I wish to end my life, I should be legally allowed to do it.

    It breaks my heart that people who WANT to end their lives in a dignified way are refused the right to do it.
    You can do this - it's called an advanced directive order ... Whilst in sound mind you can say that for example, in advanced cancer etc, you wish to have no medical intervention. You can not say you want someone to kill you, but you can refuse all treatment and have a much quicker death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Trooper View Post
    You can do this - it's called an advanced directive order ... Whilst in sound mind you can say that for example, in advanced cancer etc, you wish to have no medical intervention. You can not say you want someone to kill you, but you can refuse all treatment and have a much quicker death.

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    That isn't anything the same as euthanasia, and nor is it dignified. I have watched someone die an agonising death over months without treatment as there was nothing to be done anyway. And it was agonising, for him, for his family, for everyone involved.

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