Some great points have been made and I hope you have a good outcome 5ITB.
I, too, think it's odd that it is assumed children of atheists don't learn about religion.
The main point is the difference between learning one religion as fact and learning about many religions from a cultural and historical perspective.
Growing up, I was taught about the beliefs of many, many different religions and I was exposed to varying religious practices. I knew more about religion and the diverse beliefs which exist than any of my peers at high school who came from Christian households - excluding one friend, who was also an atheist.
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23-05-2012 07:34 #81
23-05-2012 08:10 #82Senior Member
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We are religious household and my children don't do RE at school as the teachings are different to our beliefs. But if they were handed something I would just brush it off as an accident and explain my view of feelings to the child but leave it at that. I think it would be ok to let the teacher know that your child was given it and you were disappointed. I think that kids won't feel like their missing out if they are given reasons why they don't do RE. My kids have overheard the RE lessons before and come home telling me what they were doing in that lesson but I feel they are just learning that everyone is different when they hear something contrary to our beliefs.
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23-05-2012 08:37 #83Senior Member
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I think religious education should be taught in schools from a Geography POV. I think children should be taught the about the basic beliefs of at least all the main****** religions, about creationism and also the meaning of atheism and agnosticism. After that all kids can make an informed choice. Until all information and variables are presented anything else can only be construed as indoctrination
I do also think that seeing we have the Westminster form of law, that the history of law and the ten commandments should also be covered, but maybe at an older level of secondary school.
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23-05-2012 09:09 #84
I would be annoyed, but would take it with a pinch of salt really and explain that some people believe things that we dont. I would speak to the teacher though.
Religious people that go on about God outside of church annoy the living **** out of me. I certainly dont believe that public schools should be preaching this stuff
23-05-2012 09:56 #85
I firmly believe teaching religion as fact has no place in the public school system, and the blatant discrimination against children who don't participate sh!!s me up the wall!
I would put in a written complaint and request a meeting. Paper trails are always better than "but SHE said..." IYKWIM.
To the few who think it's no big deal, as an atheist parent, it is a big deal to many of us who have seen our children excluded, criticised and pitied... PITIED! by religious people. It's infuriating and we have very little recourse at the moment because religious political parties have blocked ethics classes and the discrimination is allowed to continue.
23-05-2012 10:06 #86
I am a religious mother but I am appalled by you childrens school. Not only that they were given this drawing - like you said maybe it was an accident??? but that they teach one kind of religion and make the other children sit up the back of the class or get separated based on their families beliefs...wow so say you kid has a friend in the scripture class they are made to stand up and leave or made to sit in the back of the room and not participate...young scripture studies from memory are kinda fun (like games and stuff) so you have to explain why they miss out....thats really terrible. .
I am Anglican with a Catholic husband and we are yet to baptise our son so this obviously is not a problem for me but equally I would be upset if my sons school was teaching another religion as fact instead of a choice. Especially as young as kindergarten
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23-05-2012 10:27 #87
23-05-2012 11:13 #88
Just on the choice thing, personally, I think DD is a little too young to make a choice about religion as she doesn't have the ability of critical thought, but I wouldn't stop her from going to religious education classes if that is what she truly wanted.
However, I would encourage her to ask questions rather than just accepting, which is what she already does. We have covered a few different religions at home and what they believe and so far DD has chosen no religion. I have even discussed high schools with her and gave her the choice of where to go (public high schools are not that great here so we have few choices, mostly religious high schools or a Steiner). She didn't want to go anywhere where she HAD to do religious studies. We will continue to look at other cultures and religions at an age appropriate level. We are currently reading about Africa and are up to the nations that believe in voodoo (which is far older than Christianity).
I plan to do what my parents did for me. For her to find her own spiritual path when she is old enough. My father is an atheist, my mother was Anglican and they let me have free reign when I was a teen to explore other religions to see what was right for me.
23-05-2012 11:22 #89
I once knew someone who absolutely insisted her kids not know anything remotely religious related even though her son kep insisting that he wanted to learn (he was 6) about God and the likes. No judgment but I felt sorry for the poor kid who really wanted to learn about it all and his mother refused because that is what she believed.
Ana Gram I think it's awesome what you do for your DD and thank you so much for giving me your view on this.
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23-05-2012 11:35 #90
I only just read the comments on your facebook, FITB, (after some comments on here about it) and had the best laugh ever! Is it terrible that I read all comments from that Sandra woman in a deep southern American accent in my head? But honestly, if you actually know this woman... how do you not smack her?
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