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22-05-2012 21:17 #51
22-05-2012 21:22 #52
Like I said, I have nothing against religion, I'm actually technically a Catholic and so is DH, but we grew up to be who we are today because we chose that. If DS wants to join a religion when he grows up, fine by me. But to have it forced down his throat with scare tactics, that's a line you don't cross with my child. Respecting others in their home while they pray is one thing, but "making" him pray when he feels uncomfortable is not on. Like I said, I'd never force Atheist beliefs onto her child in my home and I'm sure she wouldn't appreciate it if I did.
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22-05-2012 21:23 #53
The first couple of weeks seemed to have teethng issues, kids still up the back of the class etc until they sorted it out.
The thing is I know they need a qualified teacher present to prevent talks of fire & brimstone etc.. but I think the school also sees it as a good opportunity for some of teh other teachers to attend meetings or organise their bits and pieces.
I was left a bt emotionally drained leading up to this and decided that them sitting in the other class for now was okay. and that i'd see how it panned out.
Will have a chat to him tomorrow - I didn't see this sheet until DS2 unpacked his bag when we got home.
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22-05-2012 21:37 #57
I'm not really suprised that the teachers are using the time to get other things done - that was actually one of my first thoughts - hmmm, someone else is teaching my class for 1/2 hour, what can we use that time for?! Teachers are allllways doing stuff, so I can see how they would be tempted to use the scripture time as a non-contact time for themselves to do some other work, but it just isn't professional or responsible on behalf of the school. I hope the chat goes well tomorrow & the principal is supportive and quick to try to resolve the problem.
22-05-2012 21:38 #58
Pretty much...they offer a certain dollar figure to allow RE to be taught.
I had a friend tell me that their Montessori school was approached and offered something like $60,000 for the year if they allowed it. The money would have been of great bebefit - and the principal was trying to do it so that the class was offered as an 'after school activity' for those who wanted to participate. (not sure how it went - I'll have to ask)
..and our school also has a Chaplain -- the schools get loads of money through the School Chaplain Program.
I personally would prefer the kids had a qualified child psych or counsellor to go and see, but yeh ..Millions across Australia poured into schools through this program, connected to the government somehow -- I'll see if I can find out more information if you are interested.
22-05-2012 21:49 #59
I think also because the scripture teachers are volunteers, they are not paid, so the school is gaining money there, especially if they are using the time as a non-contact for teachers - to pay a relief teacher to teach non-contact is expensive, so to have a volunteer come in and then just a couple of teachers supervise here and there saves the school some $$.
Also, I think that many churches would give donations, etc. for these kinds of programs to operate. I know their heart is in the right place - they are giving both of their time and money, to try to 'help' others - it's just that it is like misguided charity, especially when people don't want it. I think it's lovely if the volunteers want to help out in the school, and I'm sure they are just trying to be nice, but when they are pushing their beliefs onto others, and they are untrained and unqualified to teach, and operate in a manner that is clearly unprofessional, I personally find that shouldn't be acceptable in a school environment. They will not teach the curriculum content well if they are not trained teachers, and although I am a christian (and a teacher), and I will be sending my child to a private christian school, I personally would be unhappy with an untrained teacher teaching my child about religion, or any other topic, at school.
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22-05-2012 22:00 #60
I agree with you Regina. Volunteering is a great thing but children can be vulnerable to suggestion, especially from an adult. Classes during school time should be taught by qualified teachers.
Imagine the outrage if I went into a classroom and talked to children about veganism.
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