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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachael3 View Post
    We have been trying for nearly 2.5 years. After 12 months of trying our GP recommended IVF Australia. My DH and I had unexplained infertility at this time i was 31 and he was 32. We did our first IUI and got a BFN. We went straight into IVF 15 eggs extracted, 10 fertilised and 4 made it to 5 day blasts. The fresh transfer failed, the first FET was a chem BFP failed after 4 days. The 2nd FET both final froz embs died before transfer.

    For the next fresh round of IVF we decided to go to the 'most advanced' fertility
    specialist with Genea CBD. My DH and I have also significantly improved our health between the two cycles I.e. Stopped smoking, exercised and ate organic products. We went to see one of the best Dr's at Genea knowing that even though they are more expensive having the best FS, clinic and doing acupuncture should guarantee our first succesful BFP. The FS was fantastic explained the process better and how there shouldn't be problems. The clinic was much more professional so the
    experience was much more pleasant.

    We managed to get 17 eggs (3 were seen to be bad and immediately destroyed) so 14 in total. On day 1 after extraction the embryologists said only 4 fertilized. We
    couldn't believe this round could be worse than the previous. The 5 days leading to
    the transfer was very stressful much more than our experience with IVF Australia.
    Day 3 we still had 4 embryos but by day 5 only 1 made it that was of day 4 quality I.e. hadn't reached blast stage. The other 3 had not grown but we requested to transfer 2 embs so one of the bad embs and the better quality emb was transferred. The day of preg test AF arrived with no frozens to coninue with. All this doesn't make sense to me. We have a follow up appointment with FS in 3 weeks since he is away.

    I feel so devastated and confused..I hate to change clinics again especially since Genea is meant to be the "world leaders" I don't have the strength for more failures. Everyone around me is pregnant or has had babies We can't take it anymore especially since my DH and I don't have some of the problems that causes infertility. Does anyone have any thoughts that can help? Should we stick it out with Genea and give it another go? Please help...
    I have used Next Generation Fertility did ovulation tracking twice- nothing 5 years ago, had a failed IVF in Feb 2016 both DH & I both unexplained Fertility. We decided this month December to do ovulation induction it was also a BFN but it had a possible pregnancy as something come up, I rang GENEA in norwest as I saw the Dr last year but prices were ridiculous, appointment march 2017 I want them to see my results and explain what is happening something Next Generation don't do cause it's a money making business- do you know that I reasearched and eggs are very valuable on the black market and I wouldn't be surprised that my eggs that were apparently not good enough to freeze were sold- its extortion, they know we want to be mum's they have the technology to make it work, I will go to GENEA cause Next Generation just pull money & make you pay and pay and never explain they say it's up to God, yes at one point it is but their excuses make me sick- I know your frustrations but don't give up and try again and again eventually you will get that BFP, go to GENEA they do have a better success rate but maybe try one more time with IVF Australia after all they all operate under Monash IVF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runningbear12 View Post
    Thanks! No we saw Dr Nanda but Dr Garland performed the procedures. A friend went through Dr Ward. All OBs in Coffs seem great. We did have one try of IUI, it was really just to fill in time and make us feel that we're "doing" something while waiting. I was pretty uncomfortable after the procedure and for the tww, decided for me it wasn't worth it so we just waited for Sept round of IVF. Low sperm count was one of our issues. I also had diabetes but didn't know, only found out the fertility round of tests. So I took 3-4 months to get healthy. At the time of the IVF my husband and I were the healthiest we had been in a long time. I feel this helped our chances and of course contributed to a very healthy cheeky baby! I too saw an acupuncturist- I started initially to calm myself as well. I had acupuncture before and after the embryo transfer and whether this contributed to a successful pregnancy who knows... it certainly didn't hurt and I really feel like it helped me.
    Oh thank you so much for your feedback, its great to hear results from someone with the same issue as us, it makes me feel so much better about what we are doing and who we are doing it with. Yes I can understand what you have said about the iui, we are just doing it to fill in time too and cross our fingers we get lucky, but I think ivf will be what gives us the result we are after. We will only do 3 rounds of iui. The wait until July is going to be tough but will no doubt go fast.

    Did they fully explain the whole ivf procedure to you or did you do some research too? I still feel a little lost about the process before and during.

    We are trying to get healthier too. We. Oath have busy life's with businesses so trying to find some balance in the hope it helps. We are not really overweight but have put on a few too many kgs lately so are starting to exercise in the new year too. Hopefully it all helps.

    Do you still struggle with diabetes? How many eggs did you get out of the process? How many fertilized? Did you put some on ice? Did you have 1 or 2 put back? Sorry for all the questions!

    Again thank you for your reply, you have no idea how great it is to hear from someone with the same issue, in the same area, at the same clinic with a positive result. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modella77 View Post
    I have used Next Generation Fertility did ovulation tracking twice- nothing 5 years ago, had a failed IVF in Feb 2016 both DH & I both unexplained Fertility. We decided this month December to do ovulation induction it was also a BFN but it had a possible pregnancy as something come up, I rang GENEA in norwest as I saw the Dr last year but prices were ridiculous, appointment march 2017 I want them to see my results and explain what is happening something Next Generation don't do cause it's a money making business- do you know that I reasearched and eggs are very valuable on the black market and I wouldn't be surprised that my eggs that were apparently not good enough to freeze were sold- its extortion, they know we want to be mum's they have the technology to make it work, I will go to GENEA cause Next Generation just pull money & make you pay and pay and never explain they say it's up to God, yes at one point it is but their excuses make me sick- I know your frustrations but don't give up and try again and again eventually you will get that BFP, go to GENEA they do have a better success rate but maybe try one more time with IVF Australia after all they all operate under Monash IVF.
    Oh wow I'm so sorry to hear what you have been through, and gosh that's horrible to think they could be selling eggs on the black market!

    We were told $9k through Genea, and with my private health it comes down to $4k out of pocket. Not sure how this compares to ivf Australia or others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylez83 View Post
    Oh wow I'm so sorry to hear what you have been through, and gosh that's horrible to think they could be selling eggs on the black market!

    We were told $9k through Genea, and with my private health it comes down to $4k out of pocket. Not sure how this compares to ivf Australia or others?
    That's ok, I'm so use to BFN, but I'm not use to lies, I won't give up and I won't loose faith I know I'll get pregnant I'll keep trying. 4000k is ok for IVF it's what I paid at NG, IVF isn't for me it's just emotionally draining at the end for so many reasons loosing money and not achieving what I desire.

    I'm keeping a journal, seeing a lot of specialists, naturopaths to get a greater knowledge and understanding, if I don't fall and there is no reason I'm taking these money suckers to A Current Affair, it's disgusting they don't have explainations, no such thing as unexplained fertility, it's explainable they just CBF looking into it and doing their jobs.

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    Those of you with unexplained infertility, what tests have they given you to try and explain your infertility? After about a year of trying, my first FS only ordered 1 blood test to confirm I was ovulating, a pap smear, and a stomach ultrasound. Then just said it's unexplained infertility, keep trying for 6 months. I changed my FS and discovered I had endo and low AMH. My previous FS never bothered checking me for endo because I had no symptoms. I'm just wondering if it's really unexplained or if they just aren't testing you for everything?

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    @amywillo86 and @Modella77 I am shocked and sorry to hear what you have been through. Our GP let us start getting tests done 5 mo the after we started trying, we did sperm count and blood tests for hiv etc for my partner and I had various blood tests, urine tests and ultrasound. All our results came back fine except we had allow sperm count. GP referred us to Genea to see a FS. It took about 2 months to get an appointment. FS then had my partner do another sperm count test at 3 months after the first and I had to have a hsg. Here is a list of all the tests Genea required us to do before seeing them:

    Female:
    Blood tests:
    Amh
    Blood group
    Full blood count
    Hep b & c
    HIV
    Rubella
    Syphillis
    Toxoplasmosis
    Tsh
    Varicella

    Urine tests:
    Urine micro-culture
    Chlamydia

    Radiology test:
    Pelvic ultrasound
    Hysterosalpingogram (hsg)

    Current Pap smear

    Male:
    Semen analysis & MAR including sperm count, mobility and morphology

    Blood test:
    Blood group
    Syphilis
    Hep b & c
    HIV

    We had already done pretty much all of those tests except the hsg though our gp.

    I'm 33 my partner is 39. We were told we won't conceive naturally due to low sperm count. In Jan we start iui and will do that for a few months while we wait for the July ivf round where we live. In the meantime we are also doing Accupunture and Chinese herbs and trying to get in a few days of exercise a week. I also have to have a hysteroscopy and laparoscopy in Feb to make sure my uterus is and if I have endometriosis or any other issues. This is keyhole surgery.

    If you haven't already had the above tests I recommend asking your gp to give you a referral to do so. And if you need a FS for that I'd go from FS to FS until you get all these tests done. How can a FS recommend Corrie t treatment or a plan without knowing the full data!?

    Let me know how you go or if you have any questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylez83 View Post
    @amywillo86 and @Modella77 I am shocked and sorry to hear what you have been through. Our GP let us start getting tests done 5 mo the after we started trying, we did sperm count and blood tests for hiv etc for my partner and I had various blood tests, urine tests and ultrasound. All our results came back fine except we had allow sperm count. GP referred us to Genea to see a FS. It took about 2 months to get an appointment. FS then had my partner do another sperm count test at 3 months after the first and I had to have a hsg. Here is a list of all the tests Genea required us to do before seeing them:

    Female:
    Blood tests:
    Amh
    Blood group
    Full blood count
    Hep b & c
    HIV
    Rubella
    Syphillis
    Toxoplasmosis
    Tsh
    Varicella

    Urine tests:
    Urine micro-culture
    Chlamydia

    Radiology test:
    Pelvic ultrasound
    Hysterosalpingogram (hsg)

    Current Pap smear

    Male:
    Semen analysis & MAR including sperm count, mobility and morphology

    Blood test:
    Blood group
    Syphilis
    Hep b & c
    HIV

    We had already done pretty much all of those tests except the hsg though our gp.

    I'm 33 my partner is 39. We were told we won't conceive naturally due to low sperm count. In Jan we start iui and will do that for a few months while we wait for the July ivf round where we live. In the meantime we are also doing Accupunture and Chinese herbs and trying to get in a few days of exercise a week. I also have to have a hysteroscopy and laparoscopy in Feb to make sure my uterus is and if I have endometriosis or any other issues. This is keyhole surgery.

    If you haven't already had the above tests I recommend asking your gp to give you a referral to do so. And if you need a FS for that I'd go from FS to FS until you get all these tests done. How can a FS recommend Corrie t treatment or a plan without knowing the full data!?

    Let me know how you go or if you have any questions
    I have had all that done and my hubby too, he had low sperm count but is on vitamins to increase it as mobility is great and no deformities, I am fine no issues. I also did the extra tests that a GP can't do but the FS could do and all good. Just unexplained and I have never fallen pregnant but almost did when I did the ovulation induction as the bloods shown some sign of pregnancy but my bloods were 9HCG so I got a period but I'm getting bloods tomorrow to check my HCG and see where I am at see the FS in January to discuss what happened and also see if I can do one more round of OI b4 I see the FS at Genea.

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    I think the problem I had was my first FS was retiring (which I didn't find out about until after he was gone), so I think he just couldn't be bothered. He did the bare minimum and that was it. My 2nd FS has been amazing and had tested me for all of the above and more. After my first failed cycle she tested me for a few extra things - fragile X and some sort of genetic blood test for both of us. I've been thinking about asking her for a blood test for NK cells as well, since that's common in people with endo.

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    Default IVF Australia vs Genea experience - please help

    Get a full sperm analysis!! Genome and karotype. As well.

    It wasn't till IVF Australia did this did we find out. No others did this.

    Genea or IVF Australia both are good. Unexplained infertility is the hard one! Not which clinic to use.

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    Hi All, new to bubhub and have been going through IVF since last April, 2 fresh and 2 frozen transfers so far. I was at Genea for the first fresh and found them so difficult to get any information from. I really didn't like the dr and felt so weird going there.

    I don't know much about IVFA but I went to Demeter in liverpool afterwards and did my next fresh and frozen there. I found them really welcoming and the dr had no issues explaining everything and answering al my questions. The biggest thing for me was being able to speak to someone every time I called up and it was pretty easy to get in for an appointment too


 

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