...*singing*...put a spot over here and a spot over there...
Give me an example of a job that I, as a woman couldn't do because of my biological make up - that my dp, being a man, could.
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02-05-2012 07:51 #12
ToughLove - all I can say is you don't understand feminism, that is evident. I'm a SAHM, as are several women just in this thread. SAHM's are no more lackies than working women are money hungry. Most feminists support choice, whether it be SAH or working. The fact you were even able to get your counselling certificate and work full stop is bc of feminism.
Please do some reading before you spread these falsehoods, you are bitter about feminism and you don't even understand it's basic goals and beliefs.
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She's not saying that at all. She's responding to some of the arguments we hear against feminism - that we shouldn't worry that women are more likely to be s3xually assaulted, paid less etc unless we first fight for men's rights.
Most people have something they are passionate about.
Arguing that feminists shouldn't argue just for women's rights is like saying the animal welfare league shouldn't exist unless they use their funding equally toward children's rights and care just as much about that.
I also find the word bitter strange coming from you. You have a real agenda.
02-05-2012 14:33 #17
*Adds the feminist movement to the "Do not get involved" list, along with circ, vax etc and grabs popcorn...*
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03-05-2012 00:24 #18
3. Stop criticizing domestic servitude! Some women are proud to look after their families.
This one’s a misogynist favourite, especially notable for the fact it’s the only time you’ll find them advocating for women’s rights in the workplace. Specifically, a woman’s right to iron her husband’s work shirts instead of her own. Misogynists who use this argument like to wax lyrical about things like choice, pride and sacrificial love. But what they’re really defending is their belief that women belong in the home, performing dull domestic tasks for the primary benefit of everyone other than themselves (and mainly their husband). Despite the fact that these dudes wouldn’t devote even an tenth of their lives to it themselves, they’re invested in outwardly maintaining the nobility of unpaid domestic work – because ascribing false honour to drudgery is how you reinforce invisible social power.
The thing is, women can choose those things if they want to. There’s nothing more tedious than the status quo trying to pit stay-at-homes against workforce broads. But the fact is, these people aren’t advocating for or defending a range of choices. How do I know that? Because if they were, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
This point seems to cop her the most flack but I think what she is trying to say is not that choosing to stay at home is awful. But that the only time some guys try to fight for womens rights is when it is thier right to stay at home. And that pitting working mums against home mums is rubbish and wrong. It should all be accepted without choice.
I personally am very thankful that I am not considered the property of my partner to do with whatever he wishes. I would not have that freedom if it weren't for feminism. I like the fact that if a man I am with beats me I have the choice to leave him without the police dragging me back. And I like the fact that if I my partner leaves me while I am pregnant I will not be pressured to give up my baby or have it taken off me under the idea that I am unable to care for it alone.
I also liked this article, I have heard all those rubbish arguements too many times.
03-05-2012 08:43 #19
Toughlove- I really think you have missed the point
03-05-2012 08:46 #20
Love the article, things I have heard all too often.
I find it sad when people cannot recognise that we live in a patriarchal world geared to cater for male, Western privilege. Especially when it comes from women.
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