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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingClassMum View Post
    The employer ISN'T bearing the cost, Workcover is - that's why they have Workcover insurance, in order to protect the worker financially in cases just like this.
    From my experience the employer does cover the cost of that persons pay for a certain period of time, from memory it is around 40 weeks but could be more/less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    Sue at great personal outlay with months or years before seeing any recompense?? How many people can afford this path? Income insurance is not always included in super so centrelink would be the only option. In other words, if you get hurt or even permanently disabled say on the way to work or in a scenario like this woman, and you cannot afford to sue, and don't have insurance in your super (and low to mid income earners can't necessarily afford to purchase this insurance either) then you have to go on disability payments and that's that? Wow. Reduce someone's quality of life, income and health in one fell swoop. That would do wonders for their mental health too. Sorry we will have to agree to disagree here. I think your idea of how things should work would be hugely detrimental and would further victimise injured workers.
    Many lawyers operate on a no win no fee basis.

    It's not an employers job to support employees that can't work. That's what public welfare is for.
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    Ach well while we're at it lets do away with public welfare altogether shall we, back to the days of little children cleanng chimneys.

    Adios, i'm outta this discussion :waves:

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    It's not an employers job to support employees that can't work. That's what public welfare is for.
    No, when it's a work related injury claim.... it's what workcover is for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Many lawyers operate on a no win no fee basis.
    You end up paying a chunk of your claim to the lawyer at the end. Plus you may have to pay for outlays (filing fees, expert reports) in the meantime, which can run into the thousands plus it may be years before you see any money with nothing in the meantime.

    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    It's not an employers job to support employees that can't work. That's what public welfare is for.
    I guess that is the crux of this thread - a philosphical difference in opinion where the cost of supporting injured employees should lie.

    As I said above, my position is that employers enjoy the fruits of the labour and are generally in a better financial position to bear the cost than the employee. And the government, of course, would prefer to keep a workers compensation system than have people reliant on welfare.

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    Also, it would be incredibly difficult to survive on centrelink.

    If you are unable to work due to sickness, you get the amount of the dole. If you can get onto a disability pension (difficult), you get a bit more, but nothing like a wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biscotti View Post
    No, when it's a work related injury claim.... it's what workcover is for.
    To reiterate. I think workcover is a crock and should change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMummy View Post
    Also, it would be incredibly difficult to survive on centrelink.

    If you are unable to work due to sickness, you get the amount of the dole. If you can get onto a disability pension (difficult), you get a bit more, but nothing like a wage.
    I agree. However when you can't work, you can't expect the BMW lifestyle. Compared to the USA we have a good social welfare system, we should be grateful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMummy View Post

    I guess that is the crux of this thread - a philosphical difference in opinion where the cost of supporting injured employees should lie.

    welfare.
    Spot on


 

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