If you believe in hell and are teaching your children your religion, then you need to explain what hell is. And it would be much better to teach your own children then to have someone else teach them their 'ideas' be it a firey pit or non existent.
I'll be teaching MY children what I believe hell is. And the idea that you'd threaten your children with eternal damnation for pushing their brother or not doing their homework is ridiculous. People who do that aren't right in the mind and are probably already abusers in other ways.
Children who are learning about God will question what happens to 'bad' people, exactly as I did as a child, adults are still questioning that here. You have to answer this when you're teaching your children about your religion and God and it'll always be age appropriate.
People who don't believe in God would ofcourse prefer children not be taught these things because you find them distasteful, lies, whatever. But when you grow up in a house where religion is taught and part of your culture it's not feared.
I had a crucifix above my bed since I was a baby and these things were in our house, I never feared a crucifix because we were taught it's protection and sacred. If I ever had a bad dream my mum would put the cross under my pillow and I'd feel instantly better. Religion in our house was never used to threaten us or used in a bad way, I always felt comforted by it. I think alot of the ideas put forward about hell or forgiveness of sins are catholic ideas, whereas we were never taught this and confession is not part of our religion.
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11-04-2012 10:33 #71Guest Guest
11-04-2012 10:45 #72
Personally, I wouldn't do it. Children are so innocent and I feel that we need to keep their innocence for as along as possible. The world can be a bad place to be in and unfortunately there are people in this world who are evil, but I don't feel that anybody should cloud their child's mind with images of hell and burning forever if they're bad.
At a young age, parents should just teach their child right from wrong. If they wish to tell their child about God and Jesus then more power to them. That's their decision and nobody else's business, but talking about the devil and hell.. You might as well let them watch the Exorcist lol
In saying that though, there are other ways to tell your child about hell. I guess it just depends on *how* you'd tell your child about hell. I'd probably make it sounds more innocent and not so frightening.
11-04-2012 11:03 #73One of 'God's Rules' is not to question god, or not to question his existence - is it not?
I've sinced learned....through actually questioning God, that God loves it when you question him, because then he gets to answer you! I now only ever question him....never man! Never again!
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11-04-2012 11:21 #74
Obviously you have your own 'personal faith' Des.
What Dawkins in his argument was suggesting that Organised Religions that run with the idea of Hell & Heaven and 'rules' to get in to either one, are messing with their children's heads.
He also suggests people who believe in a god are deluded. (hence his book by that title).
Seriously what was presented on Q&A the other night was very 'tame' - from both sides I imagine.
And yes - ofcourse, that may come across as offensive to some - but that is his opinion on the topic that was being debated.
11-04-2012 12:05 #75
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I just asked DS (9) what Hell is..
( he goes to a christian school and I went to bible college..)
Its a place that adults made up to scare people into behaving.
11-04-2012 12:22 #77
From the 10 commandments;
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments."
..and yes I know that some people have gone on to drop a few of the 'rules'.
Same as the 'punishment' for Apostasy in Islam varies from group to group, country to country.
Listen, I'm GLAD things are changing over time and people's value of human rights is having an impact on how religions adapt and operate.
I'm glad you, personally, were encouraged to question and seek truth for yourself - it's not the way world over though.
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11-04-2012 12:29 #78
The second commandment that you quoted is not saying not to question God, it is saying don't make false idols and worship false gods. Basically, that god is the only god, and we should worship only him. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't question him.
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11-04-2012 12:30 #79-
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I do understand Five.
when I went to bible college, I was gobsmacked from some of the stuff being taught to 18 yera old kids.
This was only 4 years ago.
You should not associate with non christians.
do not speak to backsliders
Do not test God.
its ok to vandalise things that are not Christian.( we were told to break things in crystal shops!)
Homosexuality is an ilness.
unsaved people are not going to heaven.
if your family get sick, its directly related to how much you pray.
you should tithe, including children.
Its ok to bring a non christians child to church and have them saved, in order to get to the parents.
My lecturer broke down and sobbed about all his fmaily that were going to hell.
This stuff is not at every church but this church is pretty big and has students apply every year..
Thats pretty dangerous stuff.
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