Here's a hypothesis I'm sure can and will be proven: the longer you debate religion and science, the more controversial it will get.
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01-04-2012 13:28 #21Senior Member
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01-04-2012 13:31 #22
I'm not getting into a debate about God again - I fear I may have stepped on too many toes already over the last few weeks.
Chazrity said 'Evolution hasn't been proven' -- well - evolution HAS been proven it is not just a crazy idea that has been thrown out there. It has happened, is happening and will continue to happen.
Lily -- Humans are 'Apes'...
01-04-2012 13:35 #23
01-04-2012 13:44 #24Guest Guest
So is that a yes? It's a proven fact humans evolved from an ape.
01-04-2012 13:48 #25Guest Guest
Sorry I'm confused genuinely. Can you explain the proven evolution of man?
01-04-2012 13:56 #26
No -- 'humans' did not evolve from 'an ape'
Humans ARE Apes.
Hominidae consists of orangutans, gorillas, common chimpanzees, bonobos and humans. Alternatively, the hominidae family are collectively described as the great apes.
Are you genuinely asking people to expain proven evolution of man?
I will glady provide info if you are genuine.
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01-04-2012 14:10 #27Guest Guest
I don't know much and I don't remember when I read something, baby brain. But I didn't know it was known as fact, i thought they were still discovering timelines and new species all the time. I used to think Neanderthal was a human ancestor, I think they did too, in the doco it said they realised the branches went off and they are a different specie? Is that right? I really want to see it again.
Yes btw I'm genuine, I do actually believe and am interested in evolution. Before I did architecture I got into archeology at uni. Maybe in a different life.
01-04-2012 14:12 #28Guest Guest
As in I would have done a lot of subjects on this stuff.
01-04-2012 14:34 #29
There are many docos out there that explain it if watching a visual is better for you - poeple are different, some auditory, some visual - we all learn better in different ways...but yes we evolved from ancestral apes...
"Lucy" is a name they have given to a partial skeleton - they don't even know if it was male of female - but it was one of our ancestors.
I'll post a link (because I'm supposed to be cleaning not typing )
there is a great time line here..
You mention 'branches' - and if you keep this in mind when picturing how all these groups are connected (related) -- there is no 'direct straight line' It was a loooong process that has taken millions of years. Families branching off and living in different environments under different conditons and adapting to them - over time those branches become so far removed from the original group that they cannot interbreed succuessfully. They have evolved.
And yep ofcourse there are 'gaps' in the puzzle because organic matter becoming a type of fossil isn't 'easily' done.
Information is continually being added to help us gain clearer picture.
There is loads of evidence - you can sit a human side by side a Bonobo and visually see how similar our bodies are. We are 'cousins'. If you look at our DNA we share like 98 point something percent.
(we are more closely related to a Bonobo or a Chimpanzee than an African Elephant is related to an Indian Elephant!)
There was no 'First Human'.
Last edited by FiveInTheBed; 01-04-2012 at 15:09.
01-04-2012 14:36 #30
Science all the way! Without a doubt. Religion to me, just seems a tad crazy, and i find it hard to believe in any of the stuff they that claim.
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