I didn't see it, sorry Diamond!
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26-03-2012 08:50 #21
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26-03-2012 08:54 #23
This thread isn't so much about gay marriage or not, merely the notion of 'choice' so many bestow up on homosexuality.
Whether it is a choice to be gay or a choice to enter into a homosexual relationship.
I didn't want to take the other thread off on a tangent so I made a self indulgent whinge thread instead
26-03-2012 08:58 #24
lol love it!!
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26-03-2012 08:58 #25
A few had started branching off onto the choice factor. Its one of my favorite vids so i posted it, hopefull so the people who voted no, could see a different perspective if they too like a pp had thought, it was in fact a choice.
And nothing to be sorry about rainbow, just surprised me that the logic like this thread. Was ignored.
26-03-2012 09:00 #26
At the risk of getting slammed I don't believe in being bisexual. You either swing one way or the other IMO. I remember reading an article a while back that said something along the lines of "Bisexuality is an inability to decide". So in other words perhaps they are innocently unaware of their true sexuality because they are confused. Perhaps they are merely experimenting with same sex sexualilty or have not yet decided what they're sexual orientations are. Perhaps they are in the process of coming out as gay and are using bisexual behaviour or identity as a comfortable stepping stone during the transitional period. Or, perhaps they know full well that they are gay but they call themselves bisexuals to escape the painful effects of homophobia, their own as well as other's people.
I have nothing against either orientation. I am completely and totally straight and there has never been any doubt about that. I was always attracted to boys/men and one time in high school I had a girl kiss me and I hated every moment of it. It didn't feel right to me but I can understand how it can feel right for someone else.
I don't believe in bisexuality but I'm not against it in any way. If I met someone randomly on the street or at work or wherever and they shared that they were bisexual it wouldn't change how I feel about them. As for gay couples, I'm not against them either in any shape way or form. It's not wrong, it's just different to what I know. Different does not = wrong.
As for whether it's a choice or not .. I'm not sure. For me it wasn't a choice to be straight. It just was. But I do know of some people who had to choose in the end because they liked both and in the end it did turn out to be a stepping stone for them in their ultimate decision to live as a gay person.
I hope this all makes sense ..
26-03-2012 09:01 #27
I've posted that link here before. I think it's a great example of how simple the concept is yet hard it is for some to grasp unless they are posed with the question themselves.
26-03-2012 09:04 #28
Just for argument's sake I just want to point out that I know of some women who do CHOOSE to be gay mere because they've been so hurt by men over the years and so over men that they literally end up hating men. So they choose to turn lesbian.
But yeh some still choose but again I still wonder if you've been so hurt by men that you end up being attracted to women because you believe they won't hurt you as much...is this still a 'choice' even?
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26-03-2012 09:05 #29
DD's dad had the best response to his homophobic cousin who insists that being gay is a choice:
FOB: So you could choose to be gay tomorrow then.
Homophobe: But I wouldn't!
FOB: How could you possibly know you wouldn't? You might change your mind tomorrow!
Homophobe: I'm not like that! I'm not gay!
FOB: Sounds to me like you are saying you don't have a choice...?
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