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    Oh that poor couple!

    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I can't understand how care could amount to over 8k a day? I mean really, that's just ridiculous. Even if you look at $200 an 8 hour shift for a NICU nurse, at 3 rotations that's only $600 a day. Maybe $500 a day for use of the equipment. $500 a day for the bed space. That's less than 2k, and even then that I'm aware there isn't 1 nurse allocated to 1 child per shift is there??

    I think they allowed the low repayment bc they knew the parents could probably contest the amount anyway.
    I beg to differ on the costs Nurses can cost up to $300/shift depending on their level of experience and employment status. Not to mention doctors/specialists fees. The equipment the baby would have been using is very expensive and all of the associated costs - medications, tubing, oxygen, etc, a lot of equipment is often single use only, medical waste disposal, electricity etc. An adult on a general ward costs an average of about $5000/day, well that was about 5 years ago so it's probably more now.

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    I think it's absolutely ridiculous. I don't understand how it can be that high either, I would assume a few grand a day with all of the latest machines, but over 8 grand?! That's just ridiculous. It says that amount doesn't include specialist or doctors fees either!

    I really feel for them, that's a big debt to have hanging over your head forever. I'm sure they already have enough bills to worry about

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    I think they were fortunate to be travelling somewhere with a good healthcare system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mopoke View Post
    I wonder if having this debt will affect their ability to get a loan for a house, car etc etc?
    I'd say no because it has a repayment agreement of an affordable amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles10 View Post
    Sounds like reading the fine print wouldn't have made a difference if like Pesca77 found, you can't get insurance to cover care of a liveborn prem. So, the only 'lesson' to be leant is not to travel while pregnant or don't speak out without being criticised.
    Agreed - DH and I have since made the decision to never travel OS in our perceived 'risk period' in future whilst pregnant (that being approx 22-26 weeks). Our reasoning, albeit as amateurs, is that a birth prior to 22wks is not likely to survive anyway, and after 26wks there are then policies that will cover you.

    As an FYI for all too - you can actually buy policies to cover a live prem birth overseas (my company is a provider!). However it's 'international health' as opposed to 'travel' cover and they have a 12mth waiting period like private health plans in Aust. A worthwhile option for frequent travelers though

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    Quote Originally Posted by MamaC View Post
    Oh that poor couple!



    I beg to differ on the costs Nurses can cost up to $300/shift depending on their level of experience and employment status. Not to mention doctors/specialists fees. The equipment the baby would have been using is very expensive and all of the associated costs - medications, tubing, oxygen, etc, a lot of equipment is often single use only, medical waste disposal, electricity etc. An adult on a general ward costs an average of about $5000/day, well that was about 5 years ago so it's probably more now.
    I see what your saying but at $300 that is $1800 a day for a nurse and the specialist fees according to the story were separate to the 8k a day (maybe I'm reading it wrong??). Granted I'm not a medical professional but running a humidity crib and some ventilators wouldn't amount to that much electricity.

    JMO but I feel 8k a day + specialists is OTT, and really if we work out that in a big hospital that sees say 100 premmies a year, which I would think is conservative, that 100m is just in that wing. Does one hospital cost a couple of bil a year to run all up?

    personally I see this as an underfunded hospital looking to make some money to fund some more staff....maybe I'm jaded though
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    Quote Originally Posted by April78 View Post
    I'm angry for this couple as there are idiots that go änd climb mountains or want to trek over icelands etc and when things go wrong they get rescued and never have to foot the bill. In fact they probably sell there story and make money.
    This is so true!! Let's hope they can at least sell their story too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    and even then that I'm aware there isn't 1 nurse allocated to 1 child per shift is there??
    A long time ago, my DD2 was in Special Care Nursery, and I discussed ratios with the staff. At that time, Special Care Two had a ratio of four babies per nurse, and Special Care One had a ratio of two babies per nurse. I was also told that Neonatal Intensive Care had at least one nurse per baby, and sometimes more depending on the needs of that particular baby. My daughter was not in Intensive Care so I dont have first hand knowlege of that aspect.

    A friend who had a premature (30wk) baby shortly thereafter commented that for her delivery she had eight staff members attending her, and her baby had four staff members attending him.

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    Delirium, I totally get what you're saying and it does seem a ridiculous amount of money

    But hospitals DO cost hundreds of millions to run every year. One ward alone(and hospitals obviously have multiple wards) can have a multi million dollar budget. Not to mention one of my patients had to have anti-biotics that cost almost $100,000 PER COURSE And to dispose of medical waste cost something like $200/kilo, plus the staff who clean the ward, linen supply, etc. That "per day" cost covers every aspect of care and hospital time. Not just the nurse, the bed and the equipment.
    So whilst it seems like a lot of money per day, it's not really outside of "the norm"

    ETA: Anyway, I'll shaddup now
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    Quote Originally Posted by MamaC View Post
    Not to mention one of my patients had to have anti-biotics that cost almost $100,000 PER COURSE And to dispose of medical waste cost something like $200/kilo,
    Holy ducks butt 100k for AB's? wow

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    Holy ducks butt? I'm sooo stealing that!

    But yeah, he was dying and it was a last ditch effort to save him. Worked though


 

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